ANYONE IMPACTED BY A VIOLENT ACT WHILE FISHING?

[S-Journey]

I've been involved in many a violent confrontation from my commercial lobstering days, mostly from when I was younger watching some of the old timmers out of Cohasset go at it. I've seen people throw knifes, bricks, and hammers and have seen a few people have flares shot at them and such. I've heard the stories of a few boats being rammed and the time my grandfather told my dad to get up on the bow of his boat with a baitfork and before he rammed the other boat that was cutting his traps off before his eyes to lunge forward threw the other captain with the baitfork(these people didn't mess around, things are to calm these days:-)

While fishing for pleasure I've come very close to commiting violent acts a few times, but never actualy endaged in a violent act.

Here is an example, and I would have boarded them for sure. I guess this is the hot blooded portuguese in me....

Last year while wireline jigging my friend hooked in a large striper in the 35#+ pound class. While fighting the fish a boat full of googans proceeded to drive their boat across the line while we were trying to land the fish. The line became very tight and we knew they had hooked up on our line. All of a sudden my friends line became very tight and line started peeling off his rod and SNAP, the line broke. I knew the boat full of idiots that had just crossed our line trolling at about 12kts(not kidding) and snapped our line so we drove over to them to get back the jig and wire. We didnt really care about the fish but needed the wire back since we had allready used the spare spool we had brought out. When we get over to their boat guess what I see in one of the guys hands, my friends fish with my jig hanging out of its mouth! I told him we needed back the wire, and jig back and guess what - he told me to F off. When I picked up my gaff and told them I was going to board their boat and beat every single one of them within an inch of there life they had second thoughts and handed over the wire and jig, and fish(which i was going to let them keep). When he went to hand me the fish I took it and toosed it over the side, nobody was keeping that one. In this case if that guy didn't come around I would have boarded his boat, or at least wacked him upside the head with the gaff.

[Raider Ronnie]

[QUOTE=S-Journey]I've been involved in many a violent confrontation from my commercial lobstering days, mostly from when I was younger watching some of the old timmers out of Cohasset go at it. I've seen people throw knifes, bricks, and hammers and have seen a few people have flares shot at them and such. I've heard the stories of a few boats being rammed and the time my grandfather told my dad to get up on the bow of his boat with a baitfork and before he rammed the other boat that was cutting his traps off before his eyes to lunge forward threw the other captain with the baitfork(these people didn't mess around, things are to calm these days:-)

While fishing for pleasure I've come very close to commiting violent acts a few times, but never actualy endaged in a violent act.

Van and I witnessed one of those close to commiting a violent acts episodes Rich!!!

[S-Journey]

[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by S-Journey

While fishing for pleasure I've come very close to commiting violent acts a few times, but never actualy endaged in a violent act.

Van and I witnessed one of those close to commiting a violent acts episodes Rich!!!

Yes, you did, but you also approched my vessel. In a situation like that you have to be prepared for something to that effect before you pull up alongside.


Now, If you guys had identifed yourself before coming over to me we could have just laughed it off. At the time I just thought you were another misguided Duxburian that had too many cocktails and needed a tounge lashing

[MAC]

A couple of episodes with the PETA people back in the 80's when I was tuna fishing. a couple of episodes with drunks on the canal late at nite. Just a lot of shouting though never had to get physical.

[Raider Ronnie]

[QUOTE=S-Journey]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Yes, you did, but you also approched my vessel. In a situation like that you have to be prepared for something to that effect before you pull up alongside.


Now, If you guys had identifed yourself before coming over to me we could have just laughed it off. At the time I just thought you were another misguided Duxburian that had too many cocktails and needed a tounge lashing

The misguided guy who had too many cocktails may have been Van!!!
Or it could also have been his buddy Tom!!!
Sorry Van,
I couldn't resist!!!

[S-Journey]

[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by S-Journey

The misguided guy who had too many cocktails may have been Van!!!

Sorry Van, or it also could have been Tom!!!
I couldn't resist!!!

Lol, I was just kiddign around, I didnt mistake you guys for the cocktail types. I could tell you were commercial from your setups.

Just trying to have a bit of fun

[Raider Ronnie]

[QUOTE=S-Journey]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Lol, I was just kiddign around, I didnt mistake you guys for the cocktail types. I could tell you were commercial from your setups.

Just trying to have a bit of fun

I know Rich!!!
Did you test today?

[S-Journey]

[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by S-Journey

I know Rich!!!
Did you test today?

Yup, 100% on plotting and 85% on the other - all done - paperwork to the CG tomorrow..

[Van]

[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by S-Journey

The misguided guy who had too many cocktails may have been Van!!!
Or it could also have been his buddy Tom!!!
Sorry Van,
I couldn't resist!!!

But you know I NEVER "EVER" drink while on the boat !!!!

But I to get "misguided" on land pretty often .......

[Swimmer]

In 1985 or 1986 I was fishing Gay Head during the derby just south of Philbins Beach. The access to this area was private but the beach itself really wasn't. My permission to fish there came from an old friend from my days in the old Ritz Cafe when Arthur Pacheco was still alive named Jimmy Manning. At around midnight a jeep grand wagoneer came over the dune and stopped about fifteen feet away from me. I'm sitting in a chair watching a couple of rods, which weren't doing anything. The driver of this wagoneer gets out and plunks his rod in the sand about two feet from my rod, and thats conservatively two feet. It was probably less. He looks down at me and say to me, "your fishing in my spot." My reply was "do tell." Now anyone who knows this area will agree there is probably eight or more miles of beach to fish without restriction and this guys picks my ten square feet.
He and his friend set up shop right on top of my gear and me. His buddy the passenger in the wagoneer never said a word to me. He just smiled a lot. The driver kept up with the stupid words letting me know how much a fool he was. I am not a slouch by no means (learning how to fight was a byproduct of my profession) but I figure if something was going to start they were going to have to do the honors. As much as an a-hole this guy was the possibily of him coming after me just never materialized. Anyway, after about an hour this huge skunk walks up to my bait bucket, which was about two feet to my right just in front of my cold drinks and food. I didn't like the idea of this skunk being so close especially since i had a bigger skunk to my left. I got up and bolted to my left after a moment or two when the skunk looked like it was going to sniff my stinky fish and guts covered footwear. I did not realized when I turned to move how close the driver of the wagoneer was who had been giving me the you know what for an hour. With my shoulder down I mowed the puke over knocking him down and got about twenty feet away from where the skunk was. I started laughing uncontrolably when I realized what happened. The puke wagoneer driver got up and said in a real polite way now, since he found out just how hard he was taken down me (by accident really), "what did you do that for?" I told him about the skunk at that point, which was walking right toward him. The skunk never did pee on us. The puke had the nerve to ask me for tip glue though shortly after this. I looked at him and said "you've got to be s@*^#**g me." I would not give you tip glue for any reason. Their was more banter than this between us than this. He and his buddy left before I did and I made sure when he went over the dune he drove right by my van. I checked his plate later after I left the beach using the pay phone at Alley's General Store, for future reference and my own safety as long as I was on the island fishing during the derby. Now you all know what I do for a living. He was a real putz. The threat was real because there was two of them. If this guy was by himself he never would have opened his mouth. What really pissed me off was that he caught two ten pound bluefish and I caught a couple of rats. I used to live on the vineyard in 1973, and after all these years he's the only person I ever came across fishing on the vineyard or anywhere else for that matter that I ever had words with.

[likwid]

[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by S-Journey

I've been involved in many a violent confrontation from my commercial lobstering days, mostly from when I was younger watching some of the old timmers out of Cohasset go at it.

The guys who fish Naushon carry shotguns.

Unless you're from the Hole or an islander, don't plan on your gear lasting long there.

They just don't like intruders on their grounds.

[outfished]

[QUOTE=likwid]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

The guys who fish Naushon carry shotguns.

Unless you're from the Hole or an islander, don't plan on your gear lasting long there.

They just don't like intruders on their grounds.

What do you mean by "intruders"? Like trespassers? They own the grounds?

[capesams]

every time I want to go out fishin in the boat the wife finds house work that needs to be done