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Old 04-27-2005, 10:58 AM   #1
Mike P
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Local conditions for me are, 51 degrees, wind SE at 13 with gusts to 17, barometer 29.71" and falling. Moon a few days down from full. If I had the ability, I'd probably head out to a back bay or inlet location, north facing, adjacent to a bridge, 3 hours into the ebb current Easterly winds here are tough in the spring, so I'd want the warmest stage of the tide, 3-4 hours into the ebb, 1-2 hours into the flood. A fluctuation of a couple of degrees in water temps can make a difference. Bays are warmer than the ocean. Plenty of times I've had a bite going in the early flood, felt the change in water temp thru my waders and had the switch thrown.
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:24 AM   #2
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Interesting Mike P. Early season at an inlet, at a bridge where there is usually some water restriction and higher current flow. Trying to find a little warmer water and get out of the snot of the Southeaster.
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:08 PM   #3
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There are times like these:

The solunar tables tell me that the fish will bite, but the moon is full and fishing sucks.

The night is "black as coal" in mid June, but the wind is east and the fishing sucks.

There is a front coming in: SW hard, then hard NW, but the bass are no where to be found.

It's 11pm as I put my trash barrels out - I can "smell" the bass in the air (I live a 1/4 mile from the surf), 3 hours later without a hit (but plenty of casting practice) I hit the sack.

The Block Island shad bushes are in full bloom but I can't find a bass.

Excerpt from "Black As Coal":
Conditions were perfect. The tide pulling hard, the plugs pulsating and working nicely in the current. All of my tricks were not producing - the drop back, the dart, and the agonizingly slow retrieve with the needle that stripers can't resist. None of them worked. I then said to myself "You know Dennis - sometimes they just don't bite". It's nothing that you do wrong. Not the conditions on which to lay blame. Sometimes they just don't bite. But why is that? Just another surfcasting mystery to solve on another night, another tide, maybe tomorrow, maybe next year. I'll figure it out eventually, I have to. They are my passion, these nights "Black as Coal".


And then there are these times:

Second day of a cold front, bright full moon, wind howling NW at 25, good night for me to sleep in... - my partner calls me in the morning: "Where were you last night?"
(I hate those morning after calls.)

Two weeks of no bass - middle of August, 12 noon, temp close to 90, cows swirling in 5 feet of water taking my poppers while I'm getting a wicked bad sunburn.

Like everyone, I have my set of "preferred conditions" when I'd like to be chasing Roccus. But I've been around long enough to know that there are always exceptions to my "general rules", and as I always say - "Bass don't read my general rules".

A good set of conditions at Montauk might suck on the Cape.

So get out there and cast - pay attention to what the barometer says but don't overlook wind direction, moon, current, tide, bait, flowers in the backyard, your olfactory, etc, and don't let them govern the times you fish.
Be flexible.
And, as Ed B says , everything is interrelated, there are so MANY variables. How they affect each other is a piece of the puzzle. Just add one more thing - Confidence - with it you'll be a much better fisherman.

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Old 04-27-2005, 09:13 PM   #4
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And, as Ed B says , everything is interrelated, there are so MANY variables. How they affect each other is a piece of the puzzle. Just add one more thing - Confidence - with it you'll be a much better fisherman.

DZ
SW winds and a falling barometer have almost always seemed to work well for me locally - but the older I get the more I have learned to never say 'always' I generally try to avoid a full moon with no cloud cover, too, but then I've also had nights where the bass didn't turn on until the full moon rose - right when I was getting ready to leave - go figure

Overall, I have to agree with EdB - the other variables probably have a bigger impact on the response of the food chain than just barometric pressure alone.

I had to nod my head to Mike P's Vineyard experiences - the one thing that does get me a little wound up is a fast moving squall - and I've had some dandy nights on one side or the other of them - but when the static charge in the air is discharging through your guides when you touch them, it's God's way of telling you to get the hell out of Dodge, muy pronto

"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:46 AM   #5
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I usta LMB fish alot yrs ago an high pressure blue bird sky days where the worst.i remember seein a video of a LMB actually leaning against a dock piling as if he had no balance.With that said If there was a tournament in those conditions someone always came in with the 20 lb bag of fish.this taught me to always believe there's a bite to be had if u can figure it out.I have had some great fishin with a 2 oz. bucktail in the surf the morning after a big blow because shad where around. it's all relative.Same with the moon some full moons like the FM in june don't matter go fishin. the temps are right an there is plenty of competition for food they will chow.use daytime colors.I see all this talk bout moons an now pressure.The main reason I like low pressure is because its nasty out or gettin nasty.that keeps alot of guys in the rack.I just go fishin when I have time no matter what the circumstances an have been rewarded on the off days as well as skunked on the good days.there are to many variables in striper fishin to take only one or two sets of guidlines to go by.Do i think a drop in barometer makes for good fishin absolutely.but i ain't stayin in because its nice out.Time on the water is never wasted.
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