To snap, or not to snap? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Slipknot · 05-02-2005, 07:07 AM

I'm with Karl and the only concern for me is the size of the snap effecting the action of the plug. A fish will be less concerned about a big snap, and actually on needles that appear to imitate an actual needlefish, it may be a good thing to have a long snap on the front.

piemma · 05-02-2005, 07:11 AM

my preference is to tie direct. It probably doesn't makea big difference but it's like one plug you use all the time. If you faith in it, then it works. I just have more faith in tying direct. I have fished right beside RIRockhound out on a certain reef and he was using a snap. Didn't make a damn bit of difference. We both caught a ton of good fish.

bloocrab · 05-02-2005, 07:14 AM

Slip, I can't see it changing the action at all, if we're talking about the snap at the connection point between the leader and the main line. If the leader starts from the same point of origin (the knot on the snap, not the size of the snap)...then the action shouldn't change....I would think, but if we're talking about the snap at the plug, sure it will add a little weight to the lure due to how close it is to the plug, also slightly affecting the action...like adding a little more to the lip

Slingah · 05-02-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot

I'm with Karl and the only concern for me is the size of the snap effecting the action of the plug. A fish will be less concerned about a big snap, and actually on needles that appear to imitate an actual needlefish, it may be a good thing to have a long snap on the front.

amen

bloocrab · 05-03-2005, 12:37 AM

This idiot read the question wrong and had to edit all his posts...

When tying direct, give yourself an extra foot (1') of extra leader for at least 3 lure changes. You'll lose that much because some of the line near the lure may get damaged, fish/rocks depending on structure...That should hold for an average night...unless you have a lot of time to fish that night...bring a spool

Again, I apologize, that must have seemed like I was being a smart

...I wasn't, I just mis-read the question

tlapinski · 05-03-2005, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bloocrab

Again, I apologize, that must have seemed like I was being a smart

...I wasn't, I just mis-read the question

You? Sounding smart? Never...

As far as straighteneing snaps, I had it happen enough on the duo-locks and cross-locks to make me look for another alternative. That was what brought me to try the Breakaways. I heard some very good things from several respected members of this site on them, and have not turned back since I started using them. So far I have only straightened one of the smaller clips, and that was on a jig attatched to a rock. The only lure I have not been able to use the breakaways with is a tin. The large amount of metal around the eye hole does not lend towards the use of the Breakaways. I have tried to put a split ring on the nose of some tins, but they usually get bent out of shape. I keep a couple duo-locks on hand now for when I throw tins.

Adam R · 05-03-2005, 06:50 AM

TLap, I haven't had any problems with the cross locks. The only down side I've found is if the wire loop is too small on the plug, it can be a pain to attach the snap.
I have had other types of snaps, like duo-locks fail.

Bill L · 05-03-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam R

TLap, I haven't had any problems with the cross locks. The only down side I've found is if the wire loop is too small on the plug, it can be a pain to attach the snap.

I use crossloks and was beginning to think I'm missing something, everybody seems to use duolocks or coastlocks (besides breakaways). Adam, did you have a snap on when you got your 50??

I will tie direct if I think I need to finesse it, or with big jigs. On a jig, where a fish can leverage the hook, it is much easier to open/bend the snaps.

I was always under the impression that it is NOT a good idea to tie direct to a split ring, and I have had trouble myself with lost lures doing that. It is tough to snug the knot on the doubled wire of the ring, and the sharp ends of the wire can compromise the line if they touch.

Adam R · 05-04-2005, 07:00 AM

Toonoc,
I was using a cross lock snap.

NIB · 05-03-2005, 06:59 AM

The breakaways don't wanna go on some 8/0 an 9/0 jig hooks either.i don't like bendin em out of shape to get em on there.i'm in the process of changin all my jigs to brass eyelets but i still got alot to go..if i wasn't lazy i would tie a loop knot my friend can shark off 50lb mono i gotta use a clipper its just to much.but usin a snap is askin for disaster.i use a BIG coastlock most of the time like size 35 I think.or a duolock size 55 that I bend up.I only use the big breakaways.they will alter the action on some 5 inch plugs but i really don't throw em anymore.I have been usin big clips for yrs as some of the current fishing taught me that there is no place for small clips in the world of large bass.i use the duolocks on pencil poppers an tin squids.as the coast lock with the small bend in the bottom prohibits action.