Forgive me father, for I have sinned.

[Slingah]

u sneaky, rotten basstage

[ThrowingTimber]

LOLZ dave pm sent nice fish dood

[partsjay]

your from the dark-side......


too funny.

[Fishpart]

My son, this is indeed a terrible thing you have done to these poor gentlemen........It is a good thing that you have confessed your sin, for your penance you should continue to fish regularly and SEND FISHPART ONE DARTER.......

[Mike P]

What are you askin' for absolution for--snookering the pilgrims or using chunks?

[Jamie M]

Congratulations Eben! You were in a situation where you had the opportunity to help out a couple of guys and make them more knowledgeable fishermen. Instead, you lied to them, conned them out of their bait, and reaped the benefits. Is that what fishing is to you - a source of paranoid competition?

I bet at some point during your fishing career, someone helped you out. Maybe they took you to a productive spot, maybe they improved your technique. But you idn't learn ALL OF IT on your own. And this, as I see it, was an opportunity for you to give something back. And you blew it.

Your posts consistently indicate a selfish paranoia. If someone posts that they caught a fish "somewhere in the northern hemisphere", you get all bent out of shape about spot-burning. I have news for you - you don't own the ocean, and those guys you conned last night had just as much right to fish there as you - more of a right, in fact, since they got there first. You seem to have some sense of entitlement, you think no one else has the right to fish in "your" productive spots. I just don't understand that. Others have helped me, and I enjoy helping out when I can.

The next time someone screws you, I hope you remember what you did to those guys, and accept that you had it coming.

Signing off for good.

Jamie M

[jsullivan]

Jamie ...
are you ok
if people want a fishing coach they better go get a book !!
I love a good story like that.



life is like this my friend big fish eat little fish on land and in the salt!!!!

I could just be a people hatin' mean guy though

[spence]

KABOOM!

-spence

[Jamie M]

jsullivan -

I'm fine, thanks. I'm not the selfish one who needs to take a deep look in the mirroe.

I'm not looking for a fishing coach. But I don't expect anyone to deliberately go out of their way to lie and sabotoge my night, either.

Why couldn't Eben have just gone to another spot? Every time a newbie like me asks for advive, you old-timers always say "hey, go learn on your own, learning new spots and trying them out is part of the fun". So why didn't he do that? He had to lie to them to get rid of them? That doesn't seem indicative of the work ethic you experts are always bragging about.

[redlite]

I've done worse.

[kippy]

Originally Posted by Jamie M

jsullivan -

I'm fine, thanks. I'm not the selfish one who needs to take a deep look in the mirroe.

I'm not looking for a fishing coach. But I don't expect anyone to deliberately go out of their way to lie and sabotoge my night, either.

Why couldn't Eben have just gone to another spot? Every time a newbie like me asks for advive, you old-timers always say "hey, go learn on your own, learning new spots and trying them out is part of the fun". So why didn't he do that? He had to lie to them to get rid of them? That doesn't seem indicative of the work ethic you experts are always bragging about.

I thought you were signing off for good?

[Jamie M]

jsullivan -

Sorry, I just saw the bottom of your post.

Yes, big fish do eat little fish. But, some scientists actually believe that human beings and fish are, in fact, different. At least, the ones that I'm lucky enough to know are different, and wouldn't want to catch a fish at the expense of anyone else's enjoyment.

[eelman]

Some of what was said here is true from both perspectives, When I started I was as bad as anyone else at snookering people. After a talk with my brother in law on the subject he said some things that made sense, I think when we post pictures, brag about our catch etc.. It has the reverse reaction we want, people end up hating you! So for the past couple of weeks I have not posted much about what I am catching, Its better sometimes to just stay quiet because along with the praise for catching fish eventually, people are going to want to know the where and when and how, its only natural, and then like john said, we can't complain when people dig as deep as they can to find out. I am not saying never post this stuff, we are all proud sometimes of our catch and its great to share it but, doing it constantly only enflames the masses.


For every post on here that shows a good fish or a great night, there are countless others you never hear about doing the same thing, quietly!
If you read this weeks fisherman you saw Steves report where he said it was getting out of control at a local spot well, whos fault is that? I told him you can't put these reports in the fisherman along with spots and not expect people to find out! He is a classic example of being a victim of his own success and I think now that its to little to late, damage is done. But what little we have left, I think will be keeped quiet from now on. So, what did he gain by telling the world? He lost his spot. is that the price you pay for a pat on the back?? Think about that. I used to do exacly the same thing and began doing it this year but put the brakes on fast! I dont care anymore wheather or not anyone here or anywhere else knows that I am catching fish or not.

I was fairly friendly with Tim Coleman and fished with him on more than one occasion, now, he hardly speaks to me? the reason is that When I caught my 50 I opened my big mouth and he still holds it against me that the spot has become so heavily fished, I regret it all the time.


Now as for what happend last night, I have been in that situation and, can honestly say lately that while I wont offer to take someone with me I have, this year, run into new people at spots I have fished for many years, I tell them I am surprised there are so many new faces and grumble at them some, I go on about to many cars etc... But then on the other hand after the rant I open up and tell them when and how, Its even worse if they see me hook up? They know anyway. I think for the most part I am a friendly guy when I bump into people at night but, I am also guarded I mean I dont know this guy from atom? So I talk for awhile and feel things out if I like the person I talk, If they are cocky know it alls or punk kids I shut up or walk away.

As far as telling them "everything" Nope I dont do that but I will give a starting point, I am under no obligation whatsoever to spill my guts to strangers about what I have learned over the years, If you give them a little and a starting point they should be able to figure some things out on there own, Casting to a new rock pile and hooking a bass is a great feeling of acomplishment and all the more sweet when you did it on your own.

I know how eban comes accross here but I have met him and I think he is a good guy, I will also take the liberty of saying that this post is most likely a little exagerated, From the talks I have had with eban he is always willing to share his info so maybe, just maybe, the post was half true and a sprinkle of humor added in, or maybe the guys out there were victims of there own stupidity, I would never leave a spot if someone told me to? second, its there own fault!!! for away.

So maybe we should all be carefull that this board does not become the "BRAGGING BOARD" Cause it looks like its heading that way to me...........