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Old 07-07-2005, 09:05 AM   #1
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Money is not the root of all evil....I have come to believe that religion is the root of all evil! ALL religion! I am all set with religion of any kind! Believe what you want and I will believe what I want. Sorry for all those killed or injured....terrible thing.
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I'm with you bigfish. Unfortunately since the dawn of time people have used religion to control people and manipulate them. Sucks.. totally sucks
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:11 AM   #2
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I'm with you bigfish. Unfortunately since the dawn of time people have used religion to control people and manipulate them. Sucks.. totally sucks
Agreed.....religion is an easy target for people to manipulate - or to use as an excuse for any behavior they so desire.

Funny - isn't it - that the leaders who tell these fanatics to go commit a suicide bombing in the name of Allah never strap on a dynamite vest of their own.....how gullible can these people be when even their OWN leaders wont do what they are telling their followers to do.

Makes me think of corporate America. How many jerk bosses have you worked for that asked you to do something that you didn't feel comfortable doing because they didn't want to do it.....and did you do it, or did you refuse to do it because you saw through them?

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Old 07-07-2005, 09:19 AM   #3
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Lets not turn this into a religion bashing experience. Terrorism at its root has been when people of an ideology; whether religous or political or commercial, is conducted by relatively small "fringe" groups in the name of that religous or political or commercial bend. The european terrorists of the 70s and 80s did not base their terror on religion, but ideology. These radical muslims create terror in the name of religion but it is their ideology that they are trying to advance thru terrorism. The drug lords that conduct terror in various countries do so in political and commercial ideology, having little or nothing to do with religion.

Some people just want to kill or are mentaly effed up and do so in the name of religion.

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Old 07-07-2005, 09:21 AM   #4
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Religion.....oh never mind! I believe what I believe.....and I am religious about it!

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Old 07-07-2005, 09:29 AM   #5
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Lets not turn this into a religion bashing experience. Terrorism at its root has been when people of an ideology; whether religous or political or commercial, is conducted by relatively small "fringe" groups in the name of that religous or political or commercial bend.
Agreed....but in this case they ARE using religion as their excuse, so THEY made religion the issue.....not us.

Frankly, I beleive ideology is a fancy way of saying "mask"....all WARS come down to money....the "have nots" rising up to try to grab what the "haves" got.....that is all Al-Quada wants....to no longer have to live in tents but to have houses like the rest of us. It all comes down to power, and as everyone knows in this world we have created - money is power. The leaders know this, so they use reigion as a way to get the common foot soldier so enraged at the enemy.....the use of religion (or any "ideology") is nothing more then a propaganda ploy on their own people.

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Old 07-07-2005, 09:30 AM   #6
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It's now 40 people dead (innocent people) and 300 innocent people wounded. Time to face up to the facts boys and girls, religion is the number one cause of our world's troubles today. You think it can't happen here? Just as there are Muslim extremists and good Muslims there is a growing front of Christian Extremeism in this country. Bombings and shootings at abortion clinics are just the start. Jimmy Swaggart, that two timing whore banging Jesus/bible spouting slime, tells people on his TV show each week that those who do not beoieve the bible is the true word of God, line for line are sinners and evil that most be converted or cast out of our society. Cast out? What the hell does that mean? Bible belt theaters refuse to show a film that shows the scientific view of the development of life on this planet. In thier view, everyone should believe that the earth is only 10,000 years old and Adam and Eve were the first man and woman. The fundemantelist Christian movement, now promoted by our Government, the President and the Religious right ( is that as in right as opposed to left or right as opposed to wrong?) is slowly overtaking our freedoms as granted by our Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
There are those who would love to see the whole country under the control of Christian Fundementalism and I might inject probably secretly admire the way the Taliban ran Afghanistan and the way Iran's Imam's run thier governement. A country cannot be run on the values of any one religion, that would be obscene.
Gearge Carlin, the comedian said it best when in his monologue he cites religion as the major cause of war today. "Hey, do you believe in God?", "No", Bang! "Hey, do you believe in God"? "Yes". 'do you believe in my God"? "No". Bang! Seperation of Church and State, where did I hear that? Religious freedom protected by the Government okay. A government run by a relgion is not.

Time to take on religious extremism anywhere by any means nescesary before it enslaves us all. I don't think God meant it to be this way at all. Kindness, caring and loving each other is not a religious virtue by any means, that those virtues must be fostered in our children and in everyone should be the worlds guiding principle.

Why even try.........
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:33 AM   #7
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Flap you are my hero!

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Old 07-07-2005, 09:35 AM   #8
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Time to take on religious extremism anywhere by any means nescesary before it enslaves us all.
Agreed brother....IMO all extremism leads to violence, because it fundamentally excludes other points of views, and tends to piss off the people who's views are not being listened too.

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