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07-09-2005, 12:01 PM
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Also known as OAK
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The conveyor belt theory (the gulf stream thing) happening any time soon is probably BS; you need a dramatic (HUGE) input of freshwater to even impact the gulf stream. There have been events in the past (geologic time, since the last ice age) where this has happened; the most well know was the Younger Dryas, about 11,000 yrs BP, (catastrophic draining of a glacial lake). recent arguments by well known scientists (Richard Alley at Penn State) are that slow steady increases/changes (like global warming) may have similar effects around 8.2ka.... that means that MAYBE you can cause enough slow change to get the same result as a sudden impact, in that case it would all be about reaching some 'critical threshold' of climate change.....
As far as running out of oil; they said we had 30yrs left 20-30yrs ago; with technology changing we are getting oil from places we didnt think possible; costs will go up, but I think some things in the forseeable future will still require oil. I'm not an Oil geologist by any stretch. While eventually we will run out of it, I think that the 2019 date is assuming constant technology. remember that probably the most invested research is on oil location, extraction and refining.
That being said, we NEED alternative fuel cars, hydrogen etc...
Hell, a few decards ago, some people thought we'd be driving cars with small nuclear reactors that never need fuel... imagine that....
Bryan
"Ranting, Rambling and Raving Geologist"
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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07-09-2005, 12:04 PM
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Below Me
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don't the windmill farms need oil to control something ?
I heard something about this when all the naysayers were talking about the Horshoe Shoal project...
anyone know anything about that ?
I don't think Global warming/Striper migration will mean much to some of us when Las Palmas slides into the ocean and whacks the U.S.
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07-09-2005, 12:08 PM
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Also known as OAK
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BW;
Dont tell me you're worried about some little landslide 3,000 miles away...??
Actually La Palma is a cool story, but Simon Day and the Discovery channel have made an immediate threat out of a 'mole'hill....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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07-09-2005, 12:19 PM
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Below Me
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hey, our highest point is about 100 ft above sea level. we'd be toast....
if I'm still around, I'm still around. If I'm not. I'm not.....
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07-09-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
The conveyor belt theory (the gulf stream thing) you need a dramatic (HUGE) input of freshwater to even impact the gulf stream.
That being said, we NEED alternative fuel cars, hydrogen etc...
Hell, a few decards ago, some people thought we'd be driving cars with small nuclear reactors that never need fuel... imagine that....
Bryan
"Ranting, Rambling and Raving Geologist"
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i agree 100% ....but i would call the melting of the freshwater ice @ the North and South poles a HUGE input of fresh water.
we already have an alternate fuel... that can be made from hemp seed into deisel fuel and or out of other vegetables... used in a hybrid vehicle it would be a renewable resource...
they only touched on some strange process of extacting some plentiful mineral substance out of sea water called (now guessing here! as they said it so friggan fast) dutronium? that would be better and even more cost effective than even hydrogen fuel...
or........
if the skin of our cars...the shell/body was super light but extremely strong...say made out of sheets of carbon nano tubes that could also be solar powered(photovolteic)[sp] and have the additional hybrid electric motors too...then we'd have something .
wishfully thinking....
i'm hoping we can all get off the road and take to the air....in our lifetime. |
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07-09-2005, 02:09 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
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dude got any pot?
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Pro Tool Club....
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07-09-2005, 04:21 PM
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nope
but i have a big tank of helium.........
do ya wanna talk funny some more.... 
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------------------------------------------------------------------ You- you mean marijuana. Lord have mercy, is that what that is? Well, let me see that. Mmmmm-mmm. Mmmm....I-I-I couldn't do that. I mean, I've got enough problems with the - with the booze and all. I mean, uh, I - I can't afford to get hooked...it-it-it leads to harder stuff. Thinking it has "a real nice, uh, taste to it," George gets high. In a hilarious conversation, his marijuana smoking prompts him to espouse his belief in aliens and UFOs:
That was a UFO, beamin' back at ya. Me and Eric Heisman was down in Mexico two weeks ago - we seen forty of 'em flying in formation. They-they-they've got bases all over the world now, you know. They've been coming here ever since nineteen forty-six - when the scientists first started bouncin' radar beams off of the moon. And they have been livin' and workin' among us in vast quantities ever since. The government knows all about 'em.
Last edited by Raven; 07-09-2005 at 05:37 PM..
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07-11-2005, 02:20 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Deuterium, its an isotope of Hydrogen;
Raven, melting all the ice would be significant, but generally thats a slow steady process, the gulf stream thing implies a sudden release of fresh water... not sure what effect the slow steady melting would have; some suggest the same effect..
Who knows...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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07-11-2005, 02:46 PM
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It's our fresh water, that's why they are coming 
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07-14-2005, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Raven
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they only touched on some strange process of extacting some plentiful mineral substance out of sea water called (now guessing here! as they said it so friggan fast) dutronium?
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Isn't that the same fuel they drilled for in "Lost in Space" that powered the Jupiter II?  |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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07-14-2005, 08:21 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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The price of crude fell yesterday---let's see if it's reflected at the pump by the end of the day (yeah, right    ) |
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