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Old 07-13-2005, 08:51 PM   #1
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herring drop

I'm very suspicious when people get too excited about a 1-season drop in a population. This has been an odd year on many counts. See: Red tide, largest menheden in years, very large squid population, low herring population....etc.

Things run in cycles. Not every species has a successful recruitment class every year. Let's not panic. The marine ecology is extremely complex and not even the top marine biologists understand from year to year why certain species prosper and others decline.

The bottom line is to ALWAYS manage EVERY fishery (stock) carefully and practice good conservation methods on a consistent bases. But we shouldn't over-react or take extreme measures based on a single season.

Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:10 PM   #2
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These fish counts are for returning to spawn fish but the drop within the year classes is huge too. It's a problem.

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Old 07-14-2005, 04:30 AM   #3
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It is not a one year drop they are in trouble up and down the coast. ThomT
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:27 AM   #4
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River herring and alewive populations have been dropping for years. They are no longer seen in NY, CT has completely shut down the fihing for them. IMHO RI should do the same while we still ahve some breeders lleft. According to the DEM guys I talked to this spring most of the fish in the runs were small first time spawners.

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Old 07-14-2005, 06:37 AM   #5
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ALOT OF YEARS AGO FISHED CT RIVER FOR AMERICAN SHAD.PEOPLE CAME FROM ALL OVER AND TOWNS HAD BIG EVENTS.THIS YEAR TOTAL COUNT OF RETURNING SHAD SOMETHING LIKE 78,000.SOME YEARS BACK LIKE 876,000 AND ALOT MORE IN THE 70'S.STRIPERS ARE EATING WELL AND GETTING FAT.
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:41 AM   #6
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:06 AM   #7
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As much as I enjoy catching a few each spring, I really don't "need" them. (I need eels more then herring.) What bothers me about this is the comm catch. A couple years ago (like 2 or 3) comm netters offshre had record herring hauls. It just seems to me that the 10 or 12 herring we might take twice a week for a month or two each spring is not really the problem. The comm interest is so greed based that they will, can and have wipe out fish stocks with ease. IMO if they want to shut it down...shut down all fishing for them.
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