Beach vs. Boat - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Nebe · 07-17-2005, 03:10 PM

thats just my opinion clammer.. i respect a shore 50 far more than a boat 50 and i bet there are alot of guys here that would say the same thing.

fishaholic18 · 07-17-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Eben

thats just my opinion clammer.. i respect a shore 50 far more than a boat 50 and i bet there are alot of guys here that would say the same thing.

That's the problem, Caring what others think!!
I don't, just trying to have fun doing what I enjoy.
I'll take fish either way. All the same.....

Nebe · 07-17-2005, 03:35 PM

its not the same.

I would have a lot more respect for the person who walked the appalation trail from maine to florida than the guy who drove his car frm maine to florida

fishaholic18 · 07-17-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Eben

its not the same.

I would have a lot more respect for the person who walked the appalation trail from maine to florida than the guy who drove his car frm maine to florida

That's funny!!!

Did u find a mag yet????

Flaptail · 07-17-2005, 03:56 PM

This is a great thread now that I read the responses, thanks to all of you for participating. I love the surf and like Karl said it do cleanse the soul. One thing I like about the beach is the feeling it gives me or should I say the reminder it gives me of how small I am. Being 6'-6" I loose that perspective. As to respecting a beach fish over a boat fish, I don't know. I mean standing in the elemental fury of the surf and playing a big fish is the one way we would all like to claim our fifty but standing on a heaving deck in a hal glae at Sow and Pigs in the middle of the night when the skipper makes it a point to tell you what to do if the boat flips, well that has some merit too. I think a fifty either way are on the same plane as far that is concerned although it took me many years to reach that conclusion and cast away prejudices of one fishing method over another. Where I cast the island shores I do not rely on electronics, actually more on things I gained from shore fishing. Things like moving water, structure etc.

Karl, that New York had some great fisherman as you mention but almost all were pilgrims who made the trek north in response to what the central mass and Worcester crowd first opened up. Alot of the names you mentioned came much later actually in the middle to late fifties, sixties and seventies. I wonder what FD would be doing for the summer if he had had conditions in the 60's and 70's as we have now? Seems he might have had an epiphany of sorts lately from what I hear.

Laine's big secret was he was one of the first and certainly one of the most daring that took a small boat to the beach, launched it in the surf and fished from it on the outside of the bars along Peaked Hill etc. I interviwed the Perry boys years back for an article and their Dad Leo , who was the impetus for the reverse Atom and many squid plugs, fished with Laine all the time and told me how he ( laine) would push off in his skiff with a piece of plywood about six feet long and two feet wide which he would lay on and sleep as he was anchoerd up until the tide was right or after the fishing was done and come ashore at dawn with the skiff loaded with bass while the guys on shore caught nothing.

After it is all said and done both methods have merit and some inherent risks that make both equal on the striper playing fields. I go to the beach still quite often as there is nowhere I would rather fish than on the sands of Truro and P-Town. It is beautiful and there are sights you won't see anywhere else. The clarity of the night sky, the smell, the vista of the mighty Atlantic and the power it holds, the milky way and shooting stars and the endless rythym of the surf as the waves crash to the shore. But is missing something. Occasionally we get a taste and, like seeing a lover we once had and cannot get out of our minds and know we will never have again, it is a place that brings out a memory that cuts a small piece of your heart away each time we go there. Of anything that FD wrote, that sentimentality, and the memory of what once was and will never be again, is the most haunting to anyonme who ever experienced it when it was good.

Got Stripers · 07-17-2005, 04:56 PM

I was out Saturday in that thick stuff, thank god for GPS, good bite in the morning in the Westport area and then for yuks; we did head to Cuttyhunk. I'm just crazy enough to do it and at 25 knots mind you, but with enough prop in the water, I can make a rapid and radical course adjustment.

I've been in a few surf vs boat threads, in fact the all mighty #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& and I went at it good the first time I joined up. I can see his attitude hasn't mellowed much with age, but to each his own, at 52 I couldn't give a rats ass how or if you catch bass. I say catch them any way you can and by all means with a method and location that makes you happy. If that's with your feet stuck in the sand, slinging a slimmy creature so be it. If your mental and plugs and funny pants are your thing, go for it. If you like serious work and canal fishing, jig away boys and girls.

I like your attitude Flap, you and I definately need to spend some time out there. I've got my boat back, so if you can provide the ramp, I can provide the boat. I might have some rubber we can use too

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Karl F · 07-17-2005, 05:29 PM

pics and dates

tell the timetable.. (bottles (CC local)... any good stories about him

) no big deal who came first, or who made what first.. heard nothing but good about most of the NY boys from the grey haired crowd, and some of the Worcester gang, I have talked to.

Some nice shots, and even Arnold hung with some of these guys.

And knowing what it once was, well, as meloncholy as it is, it is also nice to remember. Good thread Flap... Thanks!

Clammer · 07-17-2005, 06:27 PM

Eben -- ya skipped all over the place // in your 1st post you rated boat fish as less of a fish or better words// accomplishment // all I said was in certain situations it [[could]] be that the boat fishing has its challanges //
Flap /put it in different words but you have to [should] respect everyones choice /of fishing == Also it may not be someone,s first choice/ but its this way or no way ==for physical, medical ,or dollar issues //
I choose not to troll /but if I went tomorrow /except for the T & W I would get my A$%% kicked....
there are soooooo many tricks of the trade that we can,t even start that thread.....
what,s easier or more thrilling // catching a 50 from shore on frozen squid . or a 50 from boat on L/L with a homemade plug //

both guys are charged/proud and right they s/b

you just have it in your mind that shore fishing is that more challanging /all I was saying .& flap added to it ;;[[DEPENDS}}

fishing the inside of S/P because there is a heave on while there are guys plugging the outter ledges of B/R in rigs /getting tossed to Chit ,knowing they could flip at any time ======= surf rules //
don,t think soooooooooo // I,ve been fishing a loooooooooooooong time & seen a ton of fish caught // never once did I ask the angler //boat or shore ??????

Nebe · 07-17-2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail

As to respecting a beach fish over a boat fish, I don't know. I mean standing in the elemental fury of the surf and playing a big fish is the one way we would all like to claim our fifty but standing on a heaving deck in a hal glae at Sow and Pigs in the middle of the night when the skipper makes it a point to tell you what to do if the boat flips, well that has some merit too. I think a fifty either way are on the same plane as far that is concerned although it took me many years to reach that conclusion and cast away prejudices of one fishing method over another. Where I cast the island shores I do not rely on electronics, actually more on things I gained from shore fishing. Things like moving water, structure etc.

well said and i agree. What i had in mind about boatfishing is trolling around a wireline and a parachute jig with a fishfinder on and seeing the fish on the screen before they bite- There are many levels of each field- You could stand on the tip of a saltpond jetty and chum up a 50, or you could farm the holes along the beach throwing needles. its all apples and oranges.

clammer- you surf cast from your boat- those fish count