Rumors about stripers - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Nebe · 07-22-2005, 07:57 PM

i thought this site was 18 or over?? guess that limit has changed too

Christian · 07-22-2005, 08:01 PM

a 36" striper is older than he is.i think.

beamie · 07-22-2005, 08:12 PM

Bring it back to 36".

Does anyone know what the best breading fish is? i.e. When people get bent out of shape when 50+ pounders are taken do those big old fish still produce or not. Are they like humans where after a certain age it just doesn't work anymore?

Raider Ronnie · 07-22-2005, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by beamie

Bring it back to 36".

Does anyone know what the best breading fish is? i.e. When people get bent out of shape when 50+ pounders are taken do those big old fish still produce or not. Are they like humans where after a certain age it just doesn't work anymore?

Whats this, do fish take viagra?

JohnR · 07-22-2005, 08:41 PM

Striperboy, check you e-mail...

Eben, the age isn't hardfast 18, we have several members that are under 18 but they seem to have the blessings of their folks and are not 11 years old.

Kudos to the kid, at 11, wanting to join our group and having a great passion for stripers, unfortunately, that's toooo young IMO... I would not let my son hang around you riff-raff when he's 11 either...

thefishingfreak · 07-22-2005, 08:43 PM

so many darn questions he'll give bigfish a run for his money.
day one up to like 30 posts.
nice he's 11 and fishes, but this probly ain't the place for him?

Nebe · 07-22-2005, 08:45 PM

John, do you still have the youth forum up???

thefishingfreak · 07-22-2005, 08:47 PM

show him capesams or fishaholic's avatar so he can witness the horror of old fishermen

Bass Babe · 07-22-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by beamie

Does anyone know what the best breading fish is? i.e. When people get bent out of shape when 50+ pounders are taken do those big old fish still produce or not. Are they like humans where after a certain age it just doesn't work anymore?

It all boils down to reproductive potential and fecundity. Fecundity is the number of eggs a female fish produces. The larger the fish, the more resources it can allocate toward egg production. Therefore, the largest fish lay the most eggs -- and they don't go thru the 'pause. But although a 50 lb-er may lay more eggs in one whack, it has lower reproductive potential, as it is not expected to live for a heck of alot longer. Reproductive potential is the potential number of offspring a fish can produce in its remaining lifetime. So...a younger, smaller fish has greater reproductive potential, assuming it will live for many more years, grow, and make more babies each year. So don't feel guilty taking the monster fish...think twice about keeping the 28 inchers, because they're the ones with many years of breeding and tons of striper babies in their future.

Canalman · 07-23-2005, 07:34 AM

I wish they'd raise it and make it 1 fish per day. And... dare I say.... stop the commercial fishery

MAC · 07-23-2005, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Canalman

I wish they'd raise it and make it 1 fish per day. And... dare I say.... stop the commercial fishery

Crafty Angler · 07-23-2005, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MAC

fishaholic18 · 07-23-2005, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Canalman

I wish they'd raise it and make it 1 fish per day. And... dare I say.... stop the commercial fishery

Slipknot · 07-23-2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Canalman

I wish they'd raise it and make it 1 fish per day. And... dare I say.... stop the commercial fishery

How about catch and release only recreational and keep commercial fishing but limit the days and amounts of fish so the season lasts longer

ProfessorM · 07-23-2005, 09:41 AM

I agree with Bruce or Canalman either way. P.

CANAL RAT · 07-25-2005, 03:01 PM

i would like it set back the old way 1 fish at 28in and i would be open to having a slot limit.people seem to forget we had a compleat collapse of the striped bass populations not to long ago in the mid to late 70's and 80's. it is too soon to be raising size and bag limits with this stock just recovering i say make the striped bass a gamefish it makes sense the striped bass stocks cannot support comm and recs at such a high level of commerical harvest also we should regulate the whole ecosystem including forage and natural conditions(pollution,run off and such) in the chesapeke and hundson the main breeding grounds of the striped bass

partsjay · 07-25-2005, 03:40 PM

36" and 1 fish

kennebecstriper · 07-25-2005, 03:50 PM

while we r at it outlaw worms and chunk....I see too many 14 to 20 inch fish floating by my place on the river

eelman · 07-25-2005, 04:17 PM

Had to reply here! Why in the world would anyone be happy if they lowered the size?? As it is 28inches is way to small, it should go back to at least 34, I would love 36....Why do people want to keep dinks! They should also make it a one fish limit

Flaptail · 07-25-2005, 05:57 PM

Hey! They are burning me in effigy on FFSW cause I joined this discussion. But the thought of making it a gamefish is just ridiculous. Just cause commercial fisheries for groundfish are F$%^@! up doesn't mean that the current bass situation has anything remotely to do with commercial fishing. It's fishing pressure in general and the biggie that everyone of the so-called righteous sportfisherman seem to conviently forget "LACK OF SUITABLE BAIT".
Duh!!!!!! Look at the canal this year so far, poor herring runs (decimated by sportfisherman I might add) The last time recordable numbers of adult pogies was seen around the cape has been ten years or so now maybe longer. Seen a whiting in the canal in the last twenty years? No. The commercial fishing catch is tightly regulated, christ, it's been since 1937 since haul seining was stopped and the bass is now recognized as the most studied, most regulated fishery in Massachusetts waters. We know how nay the commercials take yet any guess as to the take of sportfishers is just that, a guess. Giime a break. Sportfish status? Time to join the Stripers Forever crowd with thier junk science to back up thier claims. One over 36 will get you better fishing thats true but without the large bait that 36 inch fish will go 16 instead of twenty five like they used too when we had big bait. Can't see the forest from the trees and the debate goes on. What a waste of breath. Save the bait the bass can take care of themselves.

Bass Babe · 07-25-2005, 06:29 PM

Flaptail -- Word. That's all I have to say.

MakoMike · 07-26-2005, 06:27 AM

Did you guys already forget what the ASMFC technical committee did last year? If its the same this year you can look for the size limits to go up and the bag limits to go down. Last year they thought that we were overfishing them, but they wanted to wait until this year to get better data.

The prime breeding size are roughtly 34 to 44 inch fish. The larger ones produce less eggs per pound of fish and there are a lot more of the smaller ones. So in terms of the biomass, the 34-44 inch fish are the "workhorse" breeders.

07-27-2005, 06:37 AM

Yea I know you surf this site and I just got started but JohnR wants to kick me off for some stupid reason when you told me to go here.....

07-27-2005, 06:39 AM

And yes I did get permission from 5/0 = My uncle and my mom

5/0 · 07-27-2005, 08:33 AM

Kyle check you're PM's

5/0 = Uncle is getting ticked off

ragfly · 07-28-2005, 11:56 AM

I would like to see it change to what we have up here in Maine>

one fish 20" - 26" or 40" or greater.

piemma · 07-28-2005, 01:42 PM

I liked it when the limit was 34" one per day. No one was killing 28" babies. I don't keep anything under 34" anyway and never take more than one. Eben, pointed out that one fish feeds a family and then some.
I was in the Thundermist Striper Club years ago and you couldn't register a fish unless it was 34" or more. Someone pointed out that at 28 a lot of guys stretch 27 1/2. I agree.

MAKE IT 34", one a day

eelman · 07-28-2005, 04:10 PM

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I liked it when the limit was 34" one per day. No one was killing 28" babies. I don't keep anything under 34" anyway and never take more than one. Eben, pointed out that one fish feeds a family and then some.
I was in the Thundermist Striper Club years ago and you couldn't register a fish unless it was 34" or more. Someone pointed out that at 28 a lot of guys stretch 27 1/2. I agree.

MAKE IT 34", one a day

AMEN