To strip or not to strip????? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

teaser · 07-23-2005, 03:27 PM

Tyvek is not necessary nor recommended as the house won't breathe and you'll start having problems down the line with the house sweating.

By sweating I mean you'll start having moisture on the inside of the windows, the house cannot be made airtight or this and many other problems will show their ugly head.

nightfighter · 07-23-2005, 06:59 PM

From the Dupont website;
One of the most popular and widely known applications of Tyvek® is in the construction industry, where it is used to increase air and water resistance, helping to lower heating and cooling costs in buildings and providing better protection against water and moisture intrusion. The unique qualities of Tyvek® help stop air flow through wall cavities; help hold out bulk water and wind-driven rain; and allow moisture vapor to escape from inside walls. The result is a more comfortable, energy-efficient building with far fewer chances for damage from degradation effects.

I don't think sweating is a problem I've had to deal with. The Tyvek will let moisture out. Attic vents and soffit vents are what let the house breathe. I like it for what it's worth....

BigFish · 07-23-2005, 07:39 PM

Hate to burst your bubble BobT....how old is your oil tank?

BobT · 07-24-2005, 08:00 AM

Oil tank? 44 years. Why? It looks in good shape. What does that have to do with siding? OK..........confuse me somemore.

BigFish · 07-24-2005, 08:07 AM

Just joking with you but I replace oil tanks for a living...(not spamming just joking....and trying to enlighten you to the worst thing that can happen in your home besides a devastating fire) 44 years old....time to replace the tank.....it is years past the average life expectancy for a tank and if it is not a leak causing you the problem it will be no heat calls due to sludge buildup in your tank. Tanks do rot from the inside out....so you really can't tell how bad it is until it lets go....usually it will start out as a drop....but I have seen many instances where it was leaking badly off the bat! Homeowners insurance does not cover an oil spill 999 times out of 1000.......sooooooooo get it replaced for peace of minds sake! Sorry to rain on your parade but I see this on a daily basis.

teaser · 07-24-2005, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightfighter

From the Dupont website;
One of the most popular and widely known applications of Tyvek® is in the construction industry, where it is used to increase air and water resistance, helping to lower heating and cooling costs in buildings and providing better protection against water and moisture intrusion. The unique qualities of Tyvek® help stop air flow through wall cavities; help hold out bulk water and wind-driven rain; and allow moisture vapor to escape from inside walls. The result is a more comfortable, energy-efficient building with far fewer chances for damage from degradation effects.

I don't think sweating is a problem I've had to deal with. The Tyvek will let moisture out. Attic vents and soffit vents are what let the house breathe. I like it for what it's worth....

It works fine...alone, but not with insulation over it.

The insulation doesn't let it work properly and allow moisture vapor to escape from inside walls, so there's where one of the problems can occur.

BobT · 07-26-2005, 05:44 PM

OK........stripping and no tyvek and that's the final answer. Thanks for all the info you experts !!!!

gilligan · 07-27-2005, 07:16 PM

im not well liked around here but you have got to put a vapor barrier (tyvek/tar paper) before the siding. if ya dont you WILL get the above mentioned problems.
the people who are SO against vinyl are just plain narrow minded. lets compare the big problem SEAMS. "i dont like the way they seam"
any house sided with wood HAS 3 times as many seams,butt joints.
ill bet any carpenter on this site that i can watertight a house with vinyl :faster and more efficiantly than anyone could possibly do w/ wood.
coming from the same bunch of ("individuals who cry about reel maint.) im thinking you guys are lacking intestinal fortitude as far as home improvements are concerned. so until you REALLY have an argument why dont ya just be quiet

nightfighter · 07-27-2005, 07:58 PM

Gilligan,
With regards to your first comment about not being liked around here, I have no memory of any past transgressions that would you on my chit list.

That said, I took this thread to be one which asked for advice. Your response was pointed towards speed of installation, fewer number of seams, and watertight properties. If you wish to include me in your narrow minded caste, let me state where I'm coming from. I don't like the look or feel of vinyl or aluminum siding. I find a well maintained wood exterior more tasteful and classy. That is simply a matter of my taste. With regards to ease of maintenance, you got me. Number of seams, you got me. Water tight properties, you will have an argument from me on the day after a properly sided wood exterior home is completed. But they must be maintained! Hey, I have a world of respect for a good trim coiler, and siding installer, just as I do for the plasterers, plumbers, and electricians. I work with wood for the most part, That is my schtick, my medium if you will. I leave the magic of the other stuff to those guys.

But as to why I hate to work with it is another matter. 99% of the time I am brought in to remedy a problem that should have been dealt with BEFORE the vinyl or aluminum siding was installed. I have seen my share of butchered siding jobs, just as I have seen butchered carpentry. In my opinion it should be the responsibility of a siding installer to refuse to install before proper repairs are performed. The lack of doing so leads to someone else's problem down the road, subsequent homeowners and contractors for the most part. It is therfore my opinion that SOME installers would gladly install despite problems rather than losing a pay day. AND THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH OF THAT CHIT GOING ON.

Narrow minded you may say, but experience counts for something in my job which demands professionalism. It's got MY name on it. Just my view. I hope you can be open to another point of view.

Squid kids Dad · 07-27-2005, 08:01 PM

Had my house vinyl sided about 10 yrs ago..Stripped it and such..No problems, no painting and not hiding anything...Maintenance free except for an occasional wash...

gilligan · 07-27-2005, 09:32 PM

he asked about vinyl siding and there hasnt been a spec about the material. 7" exposure. ya great, apparently he thinks or has been told they all come this way. oh buy the way certainteed makes "cedar impressions"
ya he can strip it but it aint worth 1400 beans.