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Old 08-03-2005, 12:43 PM   #1
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Palomar and improved clinch knots. I had an old hacksaw laying around and I lopped off the wooden handle for it. For eel rigs I slip the swivel into a small nail and then take the handle and it snugs right up with the curve in my hooks then I just pull it tight. How are your palomars failing? You getting teh curly q thinggie?

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Old 08-03-2005, 02:21 PM   #2
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They have been failing with only a squiggly end remaining. I have been snugging them down with pliers, wetting them with spit, and pulling the eel hooks from a nail in my wall to synch the knot. This is with the 80# flouro.
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Old 08-03-2005, 04:20 PM   #3
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IMO 80# test is overkill, and may be the cause of your problems.

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Old 08-03-2005, 04:59 PM   #4
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Knots

I use the Palomar knot whenever it is feasible, for attaching a swivel or terminal tackle to the line. It can be a bit tricky on long lures with multiple trebles. I've NEVER had a palomar fail either with braided, mono, or flourocarbon.

Otherwise I used an improved clinch knot.

For attaching leader to line (or backing) I use an albright knot. I've never had a problem with an albright when attaching mono, flouro, or dacron (backing). But, I have had some problems attaching lighter (#30 test) braided to mono with an albright. Some guys like to use a "wind-on" swivel like the SPROs, but they're pricey.

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Old 08-03-2005, 05:11 PM   #5
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IMO 80# test is overkill, and may be the cause of your problems.

I should say, it is overkill if you are targeting stripers. If larger prey is your quary, then by all means, throw on the 80 lb.

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Old 08-03-2005, 06:48 PM   #6
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If you like a stiffer leader material but it doesn't knot real well for you, or even if it does, it might be worth trying some sort of knot tying lube.

I like using 60# Seaguar in the surf, but spit never seems to make the knot cinch down real nice; it still seems to catch a bit as I tighten it unless I use something to make it knot better.

For stripers I use a Palomar to go from my 50 or 65# Power-Pro to my swivel, then the Improved Clinch w/ Seaguar to go from the swivel to the snap.

For offshore critters, I go Bimini to an offshore swivel knot. Bulky, but strong.
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:03 AM   #7
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Use an Orvis knot (google it for instructions). It's small, almost 100%, very fast to tie (once learned) and you don't need pliers to tighten with 80# line.

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Old 08-04-2005, 07:08 AM   #8
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I just loop twice pull loop twice pull and do it 5 times then i do some other things till i think it good and pull as hadd as i can to see if it comes off...
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