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08-16-2005, 03:18 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Fram raised or not farm raised!
I have read a that certain young bass have the out of sequence stripes because of the genetic abnormalities caused by the many years of PCB infusion into the adult fish. One person that spoke of this was Bob Pond. The uneven stripes was thought to be "possibly" the fishes body change to the PCB's. That being said, I find it hard to believe that the size of the fish in the picture, in the Globe Magazine, is the size fish that would turn a profit for a fish farmer. Farm raised farm do not have brilliant stripes or coloring I thought. The overall coloring is faded. A 12" fish just isn't profitable for anyone but a poacher.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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08-16-2005, 03:30 PM
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D'oh
Join Date: May 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 3,296
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i am in the business man. the stripes are bright, the fish are whole, and they are sold in various size ranges as low as 1 lb fish. 1-3 lb. fish are common.
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i bent my wookie
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08-16-2005, 03:54 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 5,705
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimmer
That being said, I find it hard to believe that the size of the fish in the picture, in the Globe Magazine, is the size fish that would turn a profit for a fish farmer. Farm raised farm do not have brilliant stripes or coloring I thought. The overall coloring is faded. A 12" fish just isn't profitable for anyone but a poacher.
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Smaller=faster turnover.Remember these fish are raised in southern states and are steadily fed a high protein grain diet.Hybrids grow much quicker than either striped or white bass.They can be "farmed" year around.12" size can be attained in no time,though most brought to market are larger.They are just as brilliant as stripers except the stripes for the most part are broken.
Many a evening when I lived in TX.was spent hybrid fishing on Lake Braunig and a few other lakes.
If you're really interested in how they're farmed check out:
www.aquanic.org
Its a LONG read though.
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08-16-2005, 09:32 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Yup, what Zacs said, I see them in the asian markets all the time.
WHat I couldnt beleive is that largemouths are selling @ $10.00 a pound! I could support my family just by catching these from my local ponds! 
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08-16-2005, 10:16 PM
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None
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Yup, what Zacs said, I see them in the asian markets all the time.
WHat I couldnt beleive is that largemouths are selling @ $10.00 a pound! I could support my family just by catching these from my local ponds! 
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largemouth?!? yeah, they even sell them in pacific house restaurant in chinatown. they taste... 
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08-17-2005, 10:41 PM
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West Siiiiiiiiide
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 405
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For the most part... freshwater fish just don't compare to salt fish in terms of taste.
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Originally Posted by Notaro
largemouth?!? yeah, they even sell them in pacific house restaurant in chinatown. they taste... 
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Lookin for my big'un!
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08-18-2005, 10:59 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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PROBABLE OVEREACTION ON MY PART
I knew farm raised stripers are readily available all over the country and I gave that aspect serious thought before I posted my thoughts on the "Globe" magazine article. I appreciate all the info that ZACS and others posted in reply. As we all know many stripers use to be sold in the back doors of various restaurants and markets. Most if not all of those fish were of "size" though, which makes no difference with regard to the illegal selling of stripers, but their is a little hypocritical romanticism involved at least if the fish sold illegally were 30", 40", or bigger. One can conjure up a scene where an old pickup truck backs up to the rear door of a non descipt restaurant and sells a few fish to the owner just after sunrise. Hopefully stipers sold in any market are legal.
Where I have seen farmed stripers in the Whole Foods Markets the fish are substantially larger than what was pictured. It seems to me to sell a farm raised twelve inch stripers is just breaking even on the investment at best. For what it takes to breed and then grow in one year a twelve fish and then sell it seems ludicris. That also seems like a great cover to hide small stripers that were poached. I still have concerns though especially if no one ever checks the retail merchants who are licensed to sell any fish. Their is too much here left unchecked.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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08-18-2005, 01:03 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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I don't know the exact numbers but i once saw a program on fish farming and it turns out that the most economical size to sell is faily small. I guess its based on the max harvest pounds vs the feed cost and available space and turn overs. . For some fish species its only 9 inches.
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