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08-18-2005, 12:01 PM
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MarkM, what are you using for a primer over the Zinsser sealer.?
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08-18-2005, 12:13 PM
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Just leave a bunch of primer sealed, epoxy sealed, shellac sealed plugs in the ocean 3-4 times. See what happens. You gotta seal properly!
Why go thru all the work of building plugs, just to have them split after a few uses?
Do it once, do it right
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Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. - Morpheus
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08-18-2005, 02:20 PM
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Hey Capesams, now that we're on the sealer topic again, do you see any disadvantages in using an oil/urethane base sealer.
Your not known as the "Paintmeister" for nothin ya no. 
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08-18-2005, 02:25 PM
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MarkM thanks.  Being the seal coat is a zinsser product, have you tried their bin spray as a primer? Has no wax in it either.
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08-18-2005, 02:51 PM
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I've seen a few guys mention the Val-oil as a sealer....what's the ups and downs of this product? I was checking it out at HD last night while I was looking for the Wil-Bond stuff.
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08-18-2005, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit
MarkM thanks.  Being the seal coat is a zinsser product, have you tried their bin spray as a primer? Has no wax in it either.
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I haven't tried it yet. It's a pigmented shellac, so it should work as well, if not better. Shellac is interesting stuff, here is a link with some good information:
http://antiquerestorers.com/Articles/jeff/shellac.htm
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08-18-2005, 09:07 PM
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Personallly I wouldn't use any shellac product for exterior use.You wouldn't,or
shouldn't for that matter,use it on the trim of your house to seal it before you paint it why would use it on your plugs?
The only guarantee you get with dewaxed shellac is that clear coats will bond with it.
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08-18-2005, 09:59 PM
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Have you tried reversing the 60/40 ratio? Its not written in stone, you know 
Some BLO is better than none..
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Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. - Morpheus
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08-18-2005, 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit
MarkM, what are you using for a primer over the Zinsser sealer.?
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White water based primer. Initially I used Creatix opaque white. Now I'm using Createx Auto Air white primer, which is very nice. It dries quickly and further seals the plug.
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08-19-2005, 06:18 PM
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I use Zinsser cover stain oil base primer sealer. I cut it to 60/40 and put the mix in a gallon pickle jug. Dunk about 5 plugs at a time and let them soak for about a cold one! Dig em out and hang them to drip dry. That seals not only the outside, but the inside gets soaked also. I let them dry as long as it takes (usually this is about a couple of hours and they can be handled).
By the way, I do all drilling for weights and hooks before doing any sealing.
A light sanding is all that is required before the finish is applied. After finishing with createx paints a final epoxy finish is applied.
As a side note: I really don't expect a plug to last more than one season. If you get into blues, you are lucky to have the finish one hour. I think Bassmaster was the one who brags about his plugs when they are chewed to hell, and I would have to agree with that philosophy!! 
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