Is the old guard losing it? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

piemma · 08-20-2005, 08:28 AM

Come on Joe, I even told you were we got the fish...SoCo RI. How much more open can I be?

tlapinski · 08-20-2005, 08:44 AM

Here's a quick question, what do you consider "the old guard"? I'm 26, but I have been fishing for close to 20 years of my life. When I started out way back when, I fished just about as hard as I do now. Believe it or not, I was out all night long with my dad pounding the surf with eels and plugs from May into December. Ask my mom, it lead to my parent's divorce. I started out a little green as we all do, and I made my share of mistakes, but I learned from them. My dad would push me out of the truck with a small bucket of eels, conventional rod in hand, his old waders on me pulled up and cinched tight with an old belt, and drive down the beach until I couldn't see him any more. Before he left, he would tell me to fish until we met in the middle. I was out there learning the jetty rotation, how to fish plugs/jigs/eels/etc..., learning to read the beach, and so on before I sprouted my first short and curly.

Don't get so caught up on the age thing. Pre-judging us "young guys" does nothing more than make you look the fool. I know just as many, if not more, older bad seeds than I do young guys. I'm proud to be a part of the crew I run with. We are the future of this sport. Don't piss us off or cross us the wrong way, we'll be choosing which nursing home you'll be staying in...

Nebe · 08-20-2005, 08:48 AM

Toby..

eelman · 08-20-2005, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tlapinski

Here's a quick question, what do you consider "the old guard"? I'm 26, but I have been fishing for close to 20 years of my life. When I started out way back when, I fished just about as hard as I do now. Believe it or not, I was out all night long with my dad pounding the surf with eels and plugs from May into December. Ask my mom, it lead to my parent's divorce. I started out a little green as we all do, and I made my share of mistakes, but I learned from them. My dad would push me out of the truck with a small bucket of eels, conventional rod in hand, his old waders on me pulled up and cinched tight with an old belt, and drive down the beach until I couldn't see him any more. Before he left, he would tell me to fish until we met in the middle. I was out there learning the jetty rotation, how to fish plugs/jigs/eels/etc..., learning to read the beach, and so on before I sprouted my first short and curly.

Don't get so caught up on the age thing. Pre-judging us "young guys" does nothing more than make you look the fool. I know just as many, if not more, older bad seeds than I do young guys. I'm proud to be a part of the crew I run with. We are the future of this sport. Don't piss us off or cross us the wrong way, we'll be choosing which nursing home you'll be staying in...

I guess anyone who has 20 yrs or more in the suds, regardless of age!

BigFish · 08-20-2005, 08:55 AM

Any of you "Old Guard" yank any 40's from the suds yet this season?

fishaholic18 · 08-20-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

Any of you "Old Guard" yank any 40's from the suds yet this season?

Slingah · 08-20-2005, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tlapinski

Here's a quick question, what do you consider "the old guard"? I'm 26, but I have been fishing for close to 20 years of my life. When I started out way back when, I fished just about as hard as I do now. Believe it or not, I was out all night long with my dad pounding the surf with eels and plugs from May into December. Ask my mom, it lead to my parent's divorce. I started out a little green as we all do, and I made my share of mistakes, but I learned from them. My dad would push me out of the truck with a small bucket of eels, conventional rod in hand, his old waders on me pulled up and cinched tight with an old belt, and drive down the beach until I couldn't see him any more. Before he left, he would tell me to fish until we met in the middle. I was out there learning the jetty rotation, how to fish plugs/jigs/eels/etc..., learning to read the beach, and so on before I sprouted my first short and curly.

Don't get so caught up on the age thing. Pre-judging us "young guys" does nothing more than make you look the fool. I know just as many, if not more, older bad seeds than I do young guys. I'm proud to be a part of the crew I run with. We are the future of this sport. Don't piss us off or cross us the wrong way, we'll be choosing which nursing home you'll be staying in...

ya, but do you got a fifty???

NIB · 08-20-2005, 09:03 AM

Fifty's are overated.Alot of good anglers today don't have one yet.They are comin though.T lap would surely have one if he was from another era.

BigFish · 08-20-2005, 09:04 AM

I agree NIB....thats why I don't have one yet!

Slingah · 08-20-2005, 09:11 AM

it was a joke NIB

....im a wise arse....I dont doubt T-Lap is a good fisherman....that kinda what I meant
how big, how many, how long.....who cares...its fishing...thats my opinion, I know some people are super serious ....I like it to be fun

NIB · 08-20-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Slingah

how big, how many, how long.....who cares...its fishing...thats my opinion, I know some people are super serious ....I like it to be fun

Thats what it's all about brother.to each there own.
Fishin is not the same for everone.i enjoy the sport, the hunt an the finally conquest.I cannot disregaurd all the fine friends I have made along the way.It's my life an i am enjoyin it.A good fish is just icing on the cake.

capesams · 08-20-2005, 09:13 AM

20 year's = young sprout

44 yr's= old

60 yr's = I bow to them and say yes sir.

NIB · 08-20-2005, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by capesams

20 year's = young sprout

44 yr's= old

60 yr's = I bow to them and say yes sir.

Thats the way I was told.
Now can u make 45=old.

tlapinski · 08-20-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NIB

Fifty's are overated.Alot of good anglers today don't have one yet.They are comin though.T lap would surely have one if he was from another era.

Why the assumption that I don't have one? Just asking, not trying to start with you NIB, we already went down that dead end street with each other. As it has been said, too much emphasis has been put on that by some. To each his own, though, as no one should be judged on their personal goals. One's accomplishments or time spent in the surf, however, should not go to one's head either. Some guys (and girls) just have "it". Just because one person has spent 60 years in the surf, while another only 5, is one any better automatically? Not at all. If you put quality time in, keep track of what/where/when works and what doesn't, you don't need to spend all night every night out beating yourself up. I would rather spend 2 quality hours in the surf catching, than 6 hours looking for those 2 hours of fish. That allows me to get up the next day and scout new water, snorkel water I fish to look for bait, and make my next night more successful than if I spend the whole day sleeping and regaining my energy. Maybe the "new guard" is just a bit wiser

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Nebe · 08-20-2005, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB

Fifty's are overated.Alot of good anglers today don't have one yet.They are comin though.T lap would surely have one if he was from another era.

Toney Balloney... T's in the 50 club

NIB · 08-20-2005, 06:33 PM

Sorry didn't realize. i was actually defending him in a joke post by slingah.
u know someone called me toney boloney once.
just once.
Actually that name is on a few albums in credits from my wild days.
When I respected no one.

Nebe · 08-20-2005, 06:35 PM

TONEY BALLONEY!!!!!

how you liking the reel??

bassmaster · 08-20-2005, 06:38 PM

old school/old guard = means to me they've put in their time..YES _TIME...something I guess the younger generation has no concept of.

Respect to me is something that is earned.....regardless of age.

piemma · 08-20-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tlapinski

Here's a quick question, what do you consider "the old guard"? I'm 26, but I have been fishing for close to 20 years of my life. When I started out way back when, I fished just about as hard as I do now. Believe it or not, I was out all night long with my dad pounding the surf with eels and plugs from May into December. Ask my mom, it lead to my parent's divorce. I started out a little green as we all do, and I made my share of mistakes, but I learned from them. My dad would push me out of the truck with a small bucket of eels, conventional rod in hand, his old waders on me pulled up and cinched tight with an old belt, and drive down the beach until I couldn't see him any more. Before he left, he would tell me to fish until we met in the middle. I was out there learning the jetty rotation, how to fish plugs/jigs/eels/etc..., learning to read the beach, and so on before I sprouted my first short and curly.

Don't get so caught up on the age thing. Pre-judging us "young guys" does nothing more than make you look the fool. I know just as many, if not more, older bad seeds than I do young guys. I'm proud to be a part of the crew I run with. We are the future of this sport. Don't piss us off or cross us the wrong way, we'll be choosing which nursing home you'll be staying in...

Toby, I have fished with you and you are one of the "old guard". So is Bryan, (RIrockhound.) I think the old guard is more of an additude than an age issue. When I think of the old guard i think of guys that stand the midnight watch, fish is the rain, wind, high seas. They will walk a couple of miles over and around boulders to get to one good fish. They go the extra distance to get that one good fish.
Tim Coleman wrote an article a number of years ago entitled "The Last Man Walking". If you are out in the surf at the end of November, 20 degrees and the wind NW at 25 looking for that one last fish then I think you qualify as the old guard.