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ronfish · 08-31-2005, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete_G

Of course I can't find any numbers right now, but we couldn't sustain ourselves no matter how hard we tried if we only used our oil. We simply don't have the oil even if we had some serious success in offshore drilling. Also, Alaska is a waste of time, in relative terms. Just a drop in the bucket. Canada sits on a lot of oil, but most of it is very expensive to extract from the sand it is mixed with.

New technology is the future, if we ever want to escape our dependance on foreign oil. Maybe we could use our own oil but currently we consume way, way too much to think about it.

I agree with you about our using more than we can produce but if we built some new refineries in other areas then we could keep the Alaskan oil here rather than ship it to Japan for refining. Plus why put all our eggs(refineries) in one basket(Gulf coast) when everytime you turn around they have to shut down for another hurricane and its damage!
Another item everyone who's posted seems to forget- most of the gas engines can be made, at the factory, to use fuel more efficiently if the auto makers wanted to. I was looking tobuy a new truck in the near future but I am not too crazy about the gas mileage the new ones are getting. so looks like I'll have to hang on to the one I have for awhile longer. Ron

Pete_G · 08-31-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ronfish

I agree with you about our using more than we can produce but if we built some new refineries in other areas then we could keep the Alaskan oil here rather than ship it to Japan for refining. Plus why put all our eggs(refineries) in one basket(Gulf coast) when everytime you turn around they have to shut down for another hurricane and its damage!
Another item everyone who's posted seems to forget- most of the gas engines can be made, at the factory, to use fuel more efficiently if the auto makers wanted to. I was looking tobuy a new truck in the near future but I am not too crazy about the gas mileage the new ones are getting. so looks like I'll have to hang on to the one I have for awhile longer. Ron

Even if we refined Alaskan crude here it would barely effect anything at the pump. A couple cents in a best case scenario, which of course doesn't really matter right now. And you wouldn't see that benefit for at least a decade.

10 billion barrels of oil (best case scenario for Alaska, it could easily be less) isn't much to get excited about since we use 7 billion barrels a year.

Nebe · 08-31-2005, 02:36 PM

what i really wnat to know is what went down in those 'top secret' energy meetings at the whitehouse just before the iraq war went down...

everyone remember those?????

i dont understand why people love these crooks so much.

Iwannakeeper · 08-31-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

what i really wnat to know is what went down in those 'top secret' energy meetings at the whitehouse just before the iraq war went down...

everyone remember those?????

i dont understand why people love these crooks so much.

has nothing to do with love of crooks. i hate aspects of the adminstration too. I just do not blame all of our woes on them. Most of the problems we have including energy and ecological issues didn't start a few years ago - they have always been there. And in typical US fashion nothing is done until there is a crisis.

I still would rather have the 'crooks' in the white house. I would rather pay $5 at the pump (consumption - something I control). than the alternative, turning over national security to the UN and a %$%$%$%$ load more social programs taking money from my check each pay period.

Nebe · 08-31-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwannakeeper

I just do not blame all of our woes on them. Most of the problems we have including energy and ecological issues didn't start a few years ago - they have always been there.

the problem has been there, but the bush admin. is amplifying the causes for oil price increases.... ie global conflict. i bet your one of those who thought IRAQ was going to attack us somehow and posed a threat

Scott B · 08-31-2005, 03:38 PM

$3.50 in Woods Hole for 87 octane! I just came back with an empty tank. It's higher down hear than other places on Cape, but $3.50????

Iwannakeeper · 08-31-2005, 03:40 PM

Funny John Kerry and the other corrupt liberal clinton both publicly stated that they believe there was a clear and present danger.

so did Kerry and clinton and the rest of congress (both left and right) conspire with GW's admin and international (Tony Blair) parties to fake a clear and present danger to fight for oil? Don't think so.

I do agree that is why were are still there and think we should have pulled out long ago. I don't care if we wiped out the entire population of Iraq if it meant that one US soldier did not end up with a hang-nail. I say nuke-it, pave-it and take the oil.

Mr. Sandman · 08-31-2005, 04:02 PM

$4 very soon..
http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/31/news...ices/index.htm

IMO the price of fuel has more to do the the developement of china and their new demand (which it huge) then anything bush or clinton did or didn't do. It is easy to blame this on either but it is neither ones fault.
I like the price in caracus.

Nebe · 08-31-2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwannakeeper

I don't care if we wiped out the entire population of Iraq if it meant that one US soldier did not end up with a hang-nail. I say nuke-it, pave-it and take the oil.

and we wonder why hardly any other countries want to help us after this disaster