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Old 09-01-2005, 12:13 AM   #1
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LOVE THE IDEA!! Come on GW you know you want to do that!!
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:09 AM   #2
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i'd rather imagine a president with brains..
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:22 AM   #3
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i'd rather imagine a president with brains..
Then explain to us how any of these ideas are not smart.......

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Old 09-01-2005, 08:38 AM   #4
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Then explain to us how any of these ideas are not smart.......
they may be smart, but they are reckless. far more reckless than bush is now.

i would rather have a president in office that shows all countries respect and respect of thier beliefs.

propigating hate of others only creates more hate twards us.

look up fascism. we are getting closer and closer everyday to a fascist state.
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:45 AM   #5
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they may be smart, but they are reckless.
I believe that is a contridiction by definition......because something that is reckless cannot be too smart. So what is it in your opinion -- reckless OR smart?

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Old 09-01-2005, 09:59 AM   #6
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I would love to hear that speech.

I think other here prefer that we turn national security over to the United Nations. And keep pouring our tax dollars down those 3 world hell holes.

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Old 09-01-2005, 10:04 AM   #7
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They just sit there doing npthing about anything and complain about the world.
Agreed....so let's organize a nationwide march on Washington and demand the administration do something about the MASSIVE energy crisis in our country. Our government is selling us all down the tubes right now, simply in order to pad their own personal wallets.

Wake up America.......we are in serious trouble....here's how it works....prices go up faster then wages = more and more people slipping into poverty.....the 1% who control 99% of the wealth will be the only one's standing, becausde they are the one;'s making the rules (government)......average US house price ~ $400k.........gas @ $3/gal......milk over $2 a gallon.......have your earnings gone up over 20% annually? If not, you are one of the one's slipping behind, and eventually your nose will be under water too.

More proof: diners are raising their prices of food because they have higher fuel costs now......truckers have raised prices also......so have airlines......grocery stores, etc......since energy is a core necessity, fluctuations in it effect EVEY other industry.

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Old 09-01-2005, 03:09 PM   #8
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So what is it in your opinion -- reckless OR smart?

reckless... we would only create chaos world wide which would only fuel our enemys hatred for us.

ideally it is smart if you only look at the results here. world wide... very very reckless.

besides bush pretty much said FU to the world by invading Iraq after the UN said no way... if you ask em the UN was on the right track. Anyway, look at the results of bushs actions... most of the world hates us, and most americans hate him. reckless leadership is bad leadership.
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:18 PM   #9
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reckless... we would only create chaos world wide which would only fuel our enemys hatred for us.

ideally it is smart if you only look at the results here. world wide... very very reckless.

besides bush pretty much said FU to the world by invading Iraq after the UN said no way... if you ask em the UN was on the right track. Anyway, look at the results of bushs actions... most of the world hates us, and most americans hate him. reckless leadership is bad leadership.
Wrong on a few levels my friend.
1. Our enemies don't need any more fuel...no matter what we do they are going to try to kill us. You seem to think that if we act nice to them that some day they are going to like us. WRONG.
2. I am not a Bush Administration fan, but the UN screwed up the entire Iraq aituation. They had over 19 times told Iraq to relinquish their weapons and nuclear arsenal, and 19 times the UN was told to go scratch by Iraq. The US intelligence community had relevant information that these resources were being used to support terrorism against the US. And in your opinion the UN was on the right track? WRONG.

Remember, the UN has absolutely NO recourse to force any nation into abiding to any of it's resolutions.....they have no military force.....behind closed doors I am sure the UN was very happy the US finally decided to go in and spank Iraq for them.

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Old 09-01-2005, 08:26 AM   #10
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if only ...it were that easy.... amen...

i am all for isolationism.... i'd also say that fishing off our shores by commercial foriegn fishing fleets is now illegal... grow your own fish at home..
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:58 AM   #11
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i'd rather imagine a president with brains..
Some peaople will never be happy, no matter what happens.
They just sit there doing npthing about anything and complain about the world.
Please lets not make this into a political BS argument...

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Old 09-01-2005, 01:25 PM   #12
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i'd rather imagine a president with brains..
Agreed Eben, agreed. A president giving a speech like that probably wouldn't have done well on his S.A.T. scores. Probably would have had to do 10th grade over. Maybe his Dad should have pulled out immediatly along time ago, if youn know what I mean.

Why even try.........
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:34 PM   #13
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Even a nationwide march on washington would result in a slow change if any change at all. Just not enough people would paticipate.

the easiest way to make changes in a free market is with your dollars.

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Make the changes that can make the situation more palitable for you. Change your lifestyle to not consume so much foreign oil. Then at least YOU are not impacted by fluctuation.

If we all took the energy we spent bitching about one administration or the next and used it to better our own situation things woud change.

I am guess sales on Hummers, Suburbans, Excusions, Escalades will go in the toilet, but we are still at the will of OPEC, until we as a whole change.

I think everyone knows if we wait for the government - we are just wasting time.

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Old 09-01-2005, 01:43 PM   #14
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One of the Few ??

I am one of the few who would love to hear that speech. After 30 years in the military, I have seen the respect shown to the United States dwindle too much. The only folks that speak kindly of us are the 50+ generation. To everyone else, we are the object of their anger. Why? Because they are jealous of us.

I'll suck it up with my truck and car. Less trips for no real reason. Food shopping organized to go out and back doing everything thats needed in one trip. Vacations ? I got a pool and a back yard and hot dogs and burgers.

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