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Skip N · 09-01-2005, 12:26 AM

Its the Ficking Towel head Saudis that are mostly to blame charging $70 a barrel for crude oil....Some expert in that field i heard on TV a few days ago said paying $70 for a barrel of oil is like paying $25 for a candy bar. Thats how bad the towel heads are F'ing us over.

Its convient and easy to blame W but to me the above is whats screwing us over. Oh wait Bush must be a memeber of the Saudi family and is in on it right? Show me some FACTS about how W is in on the oil price fix crap and i will listen. not just the wacko conspirecy junk...Give me FACTS how he is to blame and we'll talk and i'll listne. Im F'ing fed up with $3 a gallon gas trust me. If W is to blame and is in on some big conspericy i will rip him up (yes i did say that!) But you leftys stop drinking the cool aid and look at the saudis....THEY are the ones %$%$%$%$ing us over. And it drives me nuts!!!

Skip N · 09-01-2005, 12:32 AM

"Speaking of leadership, I suspect many people who were watching and had done their homework knew that the horrible stuff that is taking place in the Gulf right now was going to happen. Hindsight is 20/20, and obviously no one wanted to cry wolf, but I'm surprised the feds didn't get involved sooner, as in WAY before landfall. Your city is below sea level and there's a Cat 5 coming? Just look East at Florida and what happens when Cat 4 and 5's hit there. Hiroshima style destruction... Very sad and scary."

The folks were told to evacuate. And the experts did say NO would be under water if they got a direct hit. Some just couldnt get out or for whatever reason stayed. Did anyone see the comments by one of The Kennedys yesterday essenially blaming the hurricane on republicans and W. What a wacko that guy is.

Pete_G · 09-01-2005, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip N

"Speaking of leadership, I suspect many people who were watching and had done their homework knew that the horrible stuff that is taking place in the Gulf right now was going to happen. Hindsight is 20/20, and obviously no one wanted to cry wolf, but I'm surprised the feds didn't get involved sooner, as in WAY before landfall. Your city is below sea level and there's a Cat 5 coming? Just look East at Florida and what happens when Cat 4 and 5's hit there. Hiroshima style destruction... Very sad and scary."

The folks were told to evacuate. And the experts did say NO would be under water if they got a direct hit. Some just couldnt get out or for whatever reason stayed. Did anyone see the comments by one of The Kennedys yesterday essenially blaming the hurricane on republicans and W. What a wacko that guy is.

I just don't think the people telling them to evacuate did it soon enough or specifically stated the consequences, and that's got nothing to do with being a Democrat or Republican. People knew they were in danger (although maybe not to the degree they were), but I don't think the gov't at any level pushed hard enough prior to landfall.

I know, easy to say in hindsight, but watching the TV in the 24 hours prior to landfall that was my impression.

JohnR · 09-01-2005, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip N

The folks were told to evacuate. And the experts did say NO would be under water if they got a direct hit. Some just couldnt get out or for whatever reason stayed. Did anyone see the comments by one of The Kennedys yesterday essenially blaming the hurricane on republicans and W. What a wacko that guy is.

Some did not have the means to do it and should have been moved but how many figure they would judt ride it out and be fine? Not trying to make excuses for gvmt officials in NO but evacuating 1.1 of 1.4 milion people 250+ miles in two days with few proper egress route options is a positive accomplishment.

Raven · 09-01-2005, 08:06 AM

a positive accomplishment. true... but the number of buses they are using now had to be used prior to the storm for those that really didnt have the option of driving their own vehicles....especially when evacuation was mandatory... also it was the timing ...and it was said that people were just about to recieve money that would have aided them in that endeavor and then katrina hit. trains should have been utilized too.

despite that...you would still have people that would stay no matter what.

Nebe · 09-01-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip N

Give me FACTS how he is to blame and we'll talk and i'll listne. Im F'ing fed up with $3 a gallon gas trust me. If W is to blame and is in on some big conspericy i will rip him up (yes i did say that!) But you leftys stop drinking the cool aid and look at the saudis....THEY are the ones %$%$%$%$ing us over. And it drives me nuts!!!

i dont think we can blame him for the 3$ spike because this hurricane has dammaged oil rigs, refgineries, etc... thus limiting prduction. However, i will definately blame him and his chronies for causing a global crisis out of a useless unjust war based on lies and bad intellegence. That alone has raised the price of oil buy a buck.. Saudi's dont set the price, buyers bid on the price and any time something 'might happen' buyers will bid higher based on fears. The saudi's are making $ but its not by their doing.

Many people say the Iraq war was all about oil and that we were just going in there to take thier oil.. I disagree, we arent going to take thier oil, we just went in there to create a global conflict which forced oil prices up. OIl companies are making trillions of $ in profits every quarter... American oil companies.

no coolaid drinking here, just paying attention and not blindly following the shephard.

Mr. Sandman · 09-01-2005, 11:59 AM

I do feel bad for all those people, really I do but I just don't understand why a coastal city was built below sea level that relys on a system of levies and pumps to keep them dry. (and I live on an island). It is just stupid in my view to build below the ocean in a area frequented by storms and regular flooding that requires an active system to keep them dry and safe. Everyone down there was expecting "the big one" someday. IMO they should not rebuild the city. If your beach house washes away in the storm you don't get to re-build, why should they? It will happen again, and again. Who says we learn from history? My vote would be to take down all the levies and turn it into a large reef. Those folks could move elsewhere.

Frankly I am surprised it was not hit by a terrorist already, it looks like an easy target that could do massive damage.

I hope the best for the people who choose to live down there but it seems odd to be to rebuild that infastructure.

Pete_G · 09-01-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

I do feel bad for all those people, really I do but I just don't understand why a coastal city was built below sea level that relys on a system of levies and pumps to keep them dry. (and I live on an island). It is just stupid in my view to build below the ocean in a area frequented by storms and regular flooding that requires an active system to keep them dry and safe. Everyone down there was expecting "the big one" someday. IMO they should not rebuild the city. If your beach house washes away in the storm you don't get to re-build, why should they? It will happen again, and again. Who says we learn from history? My vote would be to take down all the levies and turn it into a large reef. Those folks could move elsewhere.

Frankly I am surprised it was not hit by a terrorist already, it looks like an easy target that could do massive damage.

I hope the best for the people who choose to live down there but I seems odd to be to rebuild that infastructure.

This is why I'm a little disapointed with the evacuation and the timetable in which it took place. The potential for what has taken place was SO high. My Dad lived there for a while in his early 20's and has been predicting this eventuality for decades.

Iwannakeeper · 09-01-2005, 12:24 PM

the army corp of engineers designed and built the system with the hopes it could support a category 3 storm.

Agh.....wasn't this close to a cat 5 storm.

RIROCKHOUND · 09-01-2005, 12:33 PM

But the cost benifit analysis said Cat 3 was the best choice;
Bet thet Cost-Benefit analysis looks pretty bad right now...
ACOE; what do you expect...

Bass Nut · 09-01-2005, 12:59 PM

Has anyone checked out www.bostongasprices.com ? put in your zip code or town and it lists the prices of gas stations in your area.

The Exxon on 28 in Readinghad no gas Monday night, delivery truck never came. Price posted was from Saturday 2.73 for regular. The Mobil down the street had gas and was selling at 2.53 for reg.

To think I almost bought a Yukon XL Denali a couple of weeks ago...
think I'll wait for the hybrid on this one!