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Old 09-04-2005, 10:25 AM   #1
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Your logic is flawed.........as is the logic of everyone else who thinks this way.........because the Iraqi's had all the ELEMENTS to create WMD -- and because they had already assembled these elements in the past to create WMD and therefiore prove they had the capacity to rapidly develop these weapons -- then, by definition, THEY HAVE WMD.
Homerun, your logic is seriously flawed

Unless there are useable stockpiles, the ability to produce is only meaningful if it can be done urgently. Beyond that it's a sliding scale of risk. Additionally there has to be a desire to have said WMD used in a terrorist act.

As bad as He has been in the past, we know today that there was never much credible information that indicated Saddam was a short-term threat on either count.

The laundry list of countries that have real stockpiles of WMD today is quite large. The list of nations with nuclear weapons or those that are close is growing quickly. Many of these countries have deep roots to terrorisim, and continue to pose a much larger threat than Saddam ever did.

The real tragedy of Iraq, is that this idiological detour has undermined the very institutions necessary to wage an effective war against the real enemy.

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Old 09-04-2005, 11:31 AM   #2
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agreed: quote: undermined the very institutions necessary to wage an effective war against the real enemy.
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the effective war....is never going to END....and all these mothers and anti war protesters don't seem to realize that this Particular WAR ,the war on terror is never , ever going to end...i am sad to say....but that is the stark reality that they refuse to face as painful as that may be...it's the ultimate truth. There is a jihad against America until their very last breath on until we are in the final war or until the day we call 'DOOMSDAY. Anyone who thinks
that they will quit...or that killing a certain number of leftover insurgents is going to end the conflict is wishfully thinking and is locked into a non realistic fantasy. if and when it ends over there it shall begin over here.
the real enemy is not in one place.....and have been placed strategically everywhere they could get a foothold and blend into the existing culture.
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Old 09-04-2005, 11:50 AM   #3
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Sorry I started this thread.
Don't be, discussion about where this nation has been and is going is healthy and necessary.

I wonder how history will look back on Katrina. It might even be a landmark shift in how we view our place on the globe realtive to everyone else. It's tough to say, but more then a few people on this board alone said something along the lines of "I'll never vote Republican again". Everyone should think outside of just Democrat and Republican. The 2 party system is antiquated anyway.
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Old 09-04-2005, 04:21 PM   #5
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Spence - you and I see the world differently. I'll leave it at that.

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