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piemma · 09-05-2005, 09:27 AM

Educate hell. I am sick of feeding the masses in Africa so they can make more MASSES. Take care of Americans!!!!

piemma · 09-05-2005, 09:28 AM

BTW, Spence. You are a great guy. But insulting someone elses opinion is ignorance at the highest level.

spence · 09-05-2005, 10:14 AM

Paul, SkipN knows I'm just busting his stones. Some people need a little tough love

As for education...I agree we take care of Americans first, but just because Africa is "over there" doesn't mean their problems won't have a negative impact in the USA. The scale of the HIV crisis in some countries is simply beyond comprehension.

-spence

piemma · 09-05-2005, 10:16 AM

So the answer is for the Good ol' Americans to "educate" them about keeping their weewees in their pants. Not a good subject for an old Vet. Too many memories of "educating" the Far East where a lot of my best friends now lay dead.

piemma · 09-05-2005, 10:17 AM

Think I should hide for the rest of the day.....

spence · 09-05-2005, 10:24 AM

It's a completly different problem than STD's in the Western World. People there have no concept of what HIV even is.

I think you could make an isolationist point, if you really didn't believe that HIV around the world had no impact on Americans...but I would think most would agree it does.

This doesn't even include the compassionate aspects of aid, just self interest...

-spence

Swimmer · 09-05-2005, 10:45 AM

1st, I think we should drop the Cuban thing and established relations with them again. If we did that then eventually Cuba couldn't help but becaome a democracy. They all travel back and forth to here through the other Carribean Islands anyways.

2nd. The condom solution in Africa is silly. When all you have is your body and the pleasure it provides and nothing else no one here has any right to deny them the simple pleasure thier body provides. Throwing money at such an important problem is silly also but thats the liberal democratic way of life.

3rd. I think the residents of the continent of Africa do know what aids is. They see their bretheren die evey day from the disease. Do they have a deep understanding of what a slide looks like in the hemetology department of a hospital that is tainted with aids, probably not. Do they understand how virulent the pink and red hues are on that slide affect thier immune system, doubt it? Can they read and write about it as they sit in the sweltering sub-saharan heat, no? But to say they dont have any understanding is shallow at best and patronizing to the black man at its worst. They watch thiers babies, brothers, sisters, fathers, and mothers die from a disease that I'm sure they have conjured up thier own words for.