Bass Pro - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

RIJIMMY · 09-08-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

you wont see me there.

Good, we do not want any of the Narragansett rabble in our neighborhood

pmueller · 09-08-2005, 11:47 AM

Obviously the Northeast is being targeted by these corporate chains. Cabelas is trying to get a store in East Hartford. Rumors being told, the deal is being held up a little, Cabelas is looking for some sort of tax break.
Not only will they hurt the BandT but also boat dealers and marinas.

dickmont · 09-08-2005, 01:17 PM

While Bass Pro may not be as insideous as WallMart as far as the local economy goes, they will no doubt have a negative impact on the local B&T's. Any business that you give them leaves the community. You can no doubt get some lures for less money but can you get the ones that you really want. Our local plug builders can't keep up with the demand they have now, do you really think the shelves will be stocked with Habs and all the rest. Part of the process of being a "Fisherman" aside from catching fish is the interaction with with other fishermen that takes place at the B&T's. Is that worth maybe a buck or two a lure more to me, you bet it is. These shops are run by fishermen just like the rest of us. My 2-cents.

Bass Babe · 09-08-2005, 01:33 PM

Pete, Maybe I was just assuming more people would be like me in wanting to support small businesses. I'm sure it could cause issues for some B&Ts, having something big and corporate come in with cheap, generic lures and whatnot. I'll have to stop by the new BPS personally to see if they have employees who know their elbows from their rearends, though.

Pete_G · 09-08-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass Babe

Pete, Maybe I was just assuming more people would be like me in wanting to support small businesses. I'm sure it could cause issues for some B&Ts, having something big and corporate come in with cheap, generic lures and whatnot. I'll have to stop by the new BPS personally to see if they have employees who know their elbows from their rearends, though.

Not counting custom stuff from local builders, they typically have EVERYTHING. Van Staal, Stellas, Saltigas, right on down to the cheapest stuff. They're very thorough. They don't offer some Yozuri. They offer ALL the Yozuri, in every single color.

Your support of local shops is appreciated Bass Babe! Tackle shop owners and managers definitely notice and appreciate their regulars.

lurch · 09-10-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bass Babe

Pete, Maybe I was just assuming more people would be like me in wanting to support small businesses.

As much as I like the local shops and the great support I support my wallet first! lets be honest, if a local shop sells the same stuff for 25% more I am sorry I will go to BP because there will be less of a hit on my wallet. If we are talking the same price OR a savings of 30 cents well then I will go to the local shop...who wouldnt!

MAC · 09-10-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lurch

As much as I like the local shops and the great support I support my wallet first! lets be honest, if a local shop sells the same stuff for 25% more I am sorry I will go to BP because there will be less of a hit on my wallet. If we are talking the same price OR a savings of 30 cents well then I will go to the local shop...who wouldnt!

Is BP going to replace a rod tip on short notice? Are they going to give you information on fish movements? Will they custom order an item for you? Will they wrap a rod or repair your reel? The answert is NO to all these questions. I say NO to the big boxes. Support your local shops. If an item costs a little more so what, you are keeping money in the local economy. If money is that tight that you can't spend a little extra then maybe you shouldn't be buying custom rods and fancy reels when "off the rack" stuff will suffice for the most part. I like quality and don't mind spending a little extra to get it. As far as custom plug prices go, you get what you pay for. Why would these guys sell to a "big box" for less money when they can't keep up with demand as it is. Why should they work for less money. Apparently you have no idea on what goes into making a quality plug. Believe me it is a lot more than you think. On another note; would you do your same job ( whatever that is) if the management wanted to cut your pay? How much money do you think these guys should make? They aren't getting rich doing this believe me. They do it because they have a passion for it. Nothing is better than a guy telling you he did very well with a plug you built and thanking you. Or when they tell you they got their "personal best" on one of your plugs.

Pete_G · 09-10-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lurch

As much as I like the local shops and the great support I support my wallet first! lets be honest, if a local shop sells the same stuff for 25% more I am sorry I will go to BP because there will be less of a hit on my wallet. If we are talking the same price OR a savings of 30 cents well then I will go to the local shop...who wouldnt!

I've been matching BPS and Cabelas for years. Unless you're somewhere like Block Island, if you're a shop and you're not matching those prices people know it and you will suffer.

Consumers are very saavy these days with the Internet, you just can't have significantly higher prices if you expect to be competitive. People understandably have to look out for #1 and will usually head towads the lower prices.

This is one reason Cabelas and BPS are such a rough influence for most shops.

The shop that used to make $4 when he sold an item lowers his prices and then makes only $2, and he might sell less overall if he's located near a BPS. Doesn't take a math major to figure out why that hurts.

spence · 09-10-2005, 10:34 AM

I can't tell you the last time I was in a Wal-Mart, #^&#^&#^&#^&s, SA or other big box store.

-spence

lurch · 09-10-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete_G

I've been matching BPS and Cabelas for years. Unless you're somewhere like Block Island, if you're a shop and you're not matching those prices people know it and you will suffer.

Consumers are very saavy these days with the Internet, you just can't have significantly higher prices if you expect to be competitive. People understandably have to look out for #1 and will usually head towads the lower prices.

This is one reason Cabelas and BPS are such a rough influence for most shops.

The shop that used to make $4 when he sold an item lowers his prices and then makes only $2, and he might sell less overall if he's located near a BPS. Doesn't take a math major to figure out why that hurts.

If local shops match plus the fact that they can give the extra support (rod repair and fishing movements) BP will not even be a concern.

I have never been in SWE (For shame!) but have delt with them online and their service has been excellent so I can only imagine what it is like in the shop!

Bass Babe · 09-10-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lurch

As much as I like the local shops and the great support I support my wallet first! lets be honest, if a local shop sells the same stuff for 25% more I am sorry I will go to BP because there will be less of a hit on my wallet. If we are talking the same price OR a savings of 30 cents well then I will go to the local shop...who wouldnt!

I've set foot in #^&#^&#^&#^&'s. I've purchased things at #^&#^&#^&#^&'s. I just don't like #^&#^&#^&#^&'s. If they send me a coupon, I'll go in and buy stuff I wouldn't usually buy. If Wal-Mart is very close and open, I'll go buy a few jig heads. I've bought rods and reels there. I think having the "vegan mentality" with anything is a bit scary.
Price doesn't have a huge bearing on where I get my stuff. If I don't want or need it enough to pay the highest ticket price, then I shouldn't buy it anyways. I will still get things at the big chains, but I prefer the smaller shops and give them my business when I can. That's all most of us can do, short of devoting our lives to "save the local B&T" activism and boycotting.

Nebe · 09-08-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Good, we do not want any of the Narragansett rabble in our neighborhood

where is the love RIJIMMY????

Skip N · 09-08-2005, 03:58 PM

I have always been guilty of shopping at the big box stores. But after going to the Saltwater edge in Newport today i dont know if i will ever go back to the big stores. Holy crap what a store! I hadnt been there in a couple years and wow i was blown away. Holy pluggage i thought i died and went to heaven!! I'm not sure if that was Pete G i talked to today but what a class act and one heck of a store. Picked up some of those sweet looking AfterHours Jr. Spooksters and a 9' Tica rod to throw some heavier plugs. Now i dont think Bass Pro would be able to help me like that. And I know they wouldnt have all those perty custom plugs

Pete_G · 09-09-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip N

I have always been guilty of shopping at the big box stores. But after going to the Saltwater edge in Newport today i dont know if i will ever go back to the big stores. Holy crap what a store! I hadnt been there in a couple years and wow i was blown away. Holy pluggage i thought i died and went to heaven!! I'm not sure if that was Pete G i talked to today but what a class act and one heck of a store. Picked up some of those sweet looking AfterHours Jr. Spooksters and a 9' Tica rod to throw some heavier plugs. Now i dont think Bass Pro would be able to help me like that. And I know they wouldnt have all those perty custom plugs

Thanks for coming by Skip! Glad you liked the store. That was me in the store yesterday.

Redsoxticket · 09-09-2005, 09:37 AM

If Pro Bass offered the products that we have available from the sponsors of this site along with other well know plug, drytops, bags, etc manufacturers then I believe that some of those saying as of now that they will go to the the B&Ts will be whistling a different tune.
If Pro bass asked these manufacturers for an opportunity to come aboard I doubt that they would say no.

Joe · 09-09-2005, 10:19 AM

People are very much motivated by price - while I'm quite sure that Bass Babe and Eben and a few others won't patronize the big box stores - the vast majority of consumers will - that's why they build such big parking lots.

If a person has a successful B&T right now, then they've probably got the capital and business sense to find a way to compete or to exit the industry in favor of taking advantage of some of the other opportunities in the world. Because if they can make it in the tackle industry - with its very low margins - then they must be a damn good retailer. My sister sells bath products and she makes twice the margin I do.

If a person has a marginal B&T,the truth is that they are already heading for the wastebin anyway. All Bass Pro will do is make the inevitable happen sooner.

Rob Rockcrawler · 09-09-2005, 10:53 AM

I would shop at bass pro if it opened up, but it wouldnt be for fishing stuff, mostly hunting and some clothes. You have to admit they have damnnear everything you could possibly need. But like Varitek and Millar, they bring the intangibles to the table. All the little things tha have already been mentioned. You go to a local and the owners help you out, if they are good. Tell ya what ya need without pressure and all that. Then tell ya where to use your new goodies. And you help them out with your dollars, seems like a fair trade to me. Plus i gotta stay away from Bass Pro because i have their Visa card and those reward points can get me into trouble. Its funny how i feel like bass pro is doing me a favor when they give me a 15$ coupon after i spend a grand.

Notaro · 09-10-2005, 01:07 AM

I don't need BP in Foxboro. If there is something we need, we can order soemthing in mail or online. They won't sell habs. I do shop at Wal-Mart once a while for small things, but I usually buy and shop at my local dealers like MikeCC, Sportsman's Den, SWE, and Fore River B&T because each of them has somethign that I need and rely on any of them. If I'm looking for my rod to be build or fixed, I wouldn't go to a store like BP. I haven't tried it, but I wouldn't want them to touch it except for the local dealers that I know who have served me well for a while.

kayaman · 09-13-2005, 07:54 AM

just like the hardware stores... I'll always go to the local guys first.........

Vermonter · 09-13-2005, 12:16 PM

I'll stick with the smaller B&t's. While I'm guessing Basspro has better prices on the larger ticket items like reels and rods due to their volume buying, you have to look at the bigger picture. Doubt they have the ability to stock a lot of high end surf rods, let alone a selection of quality blanks at good prices like M&D's if you want to make yourself a rod over the winter . No one at Basspro is going to mag/trick out that Ambassadeur you bought 8 dollars cheaper, or stock plugs from area lure builders. And while Im not personally familiar with Basspro due to where I live, I highly doubt their fishing advice/reports will match up with that of the smaller tackle shops.

basswipe · 09-08-2005, 04:10 PM

I personally don't see any point in opening one.

If I was going to buy something from Basspro or Cabelas I would just mail order it.With a click of the mouse you've got yourself a new reel etc.In most cases the shipping is less than the sales tax you'd pay anyways.And it just doesn't take that long to get to your front door.I've never waited more than 5 days for something from one these places.

If I go to the Foxboro store and buy $200 worth of stuff I pay $10 bucks in tax
plus the $20+ in gas to get there.If you live next door it might worth it but most folks gotta drive a few miles.Much easier and cheaper to shop and buy while sittin' on my a$$.