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09-20-2005, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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It takes a while to realize how damaging mass media spot talk can be. Lots of us learned back about 1997-1999. We spoke more freely then. Spots got overrun or access got shut down. We got burned and started saying less. I bet the same thing happens with Steve.
I would totally agree that Steve is a nice guy based on my limited exposure to him. I think he made a mistake to publish about spots. The guy has paid his dues and is known to be one of the best. If he wants to part with his knowledge , he's entitled to do so. I think when he gets a taste of just how big an impact a single magazine article can have , and factors that into his thinking about crowds and access , he may think twice about doing a spots article again and stick to the how to stuff.
The idea that its OK to talk about spots you no longer fish is somewhat risky. There are some who know ALL THE SPOTS. Get them pissed off enough by burning "their" spots and you may find "your" spots burned in the next issue.
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09-20-2005, 02:21 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Newburyport, MA
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WOW....haven't got my new OTW yet....can't wait to see it for myself.
I might have a solution......Maybe some of you experts can write articles about some of my personal "hotspots".
Since I am pretty new to all of this and don't catch as much as the rest of you, perhaps my "hotspots" would lure the masses away from the real "hotspots".
Sort of like DIS-information.....
Not even sure if the magazines would know we were doing it? ie...every month release lots of "hotspots"....with maps and parking locations......some work....MOST don't.
Hmmmm......I may be onto something here.... 
a NEW magazine.
Mine will have more spots than all the rest combined! Hell...if people are willing to spend TONS of their hard earned (or state provided) money on lottery tickets with the odds of hitting it BIG in the double digit millions-to-one, just imagine how many "fisherman" would buy my HOTSPOTS magazine....playing the odds of hitting a good fishing spot!
Need a nice looking cover-girl (err....person) too. Cause besides HOTSPOTS...the only other thing that sells magazines is...well...you know
sorry, just trying to get a laugh out of some of you on a tough subject. |
Jim
got fish?
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09-20-2005, 02:33 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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As someone who has done a little writing as well, I took sometime and thought about this situation. I was peeved last night when I heard about it, but now that I've reflected I'm a bit calmer on it.
When I've written, I have always tried to keep my articles spot independent; I may have mentioned a general area or location, but never exact coordinates and always boat spots.
Am I happy with what was written? I havent seen it yet, so I dont know. I know steve only in passing, and know more OF him through the grapevine of chatty fishing partners. In QL, I've known him to be a helpful guy and always pretty nice.
I dont think there was malicious intent in this article, but again I havent read it yet, and yes I probably do fish alot of those spots at different times of the year, I'm not lucky enough to have private spots, but have always done OK with public spots, I learned to fish deeper in the night and generally I avoid crowds on the water. I've fished spots since I moved to SoCo from Aquidneck I 8 years ago, and probably dont know all the regulars other than recognizing a truck or slicker color..
Yes there will probably be a few more people there and yes 'old man' Iemma and I might bitch alittle more about the people, but with the hours we keep and the nights soon to be colder there will be less and less people out there anyways.
The only part of me that is peeved is the part of me that learned spots the old fashioned way; by fishing them, by asking a few questions to people in the know and through good old trial and error,, that part of me is a bit peeved that alot of people will have a much shallowed learning curve and alot more spots easily in their repertoire
Besides most of this will blow over this fall, any increased pressure will likely be back to normal in the spring or later fall, besides once the average joe going to a spot the first time leaves with a skunk, he probably wont come back...
Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-20-2005, 02:35 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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If you guys are not happy about it, then put your money where your mouths are, and write an email to Chris Meaghan the editor of On The Water:
cjm@onthewater.com
STOP BITCHING AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. |
Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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09-20-2005, 02:40 PM
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Below Me
Join Date: May 2003
Location: low
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
If you guys are not happy about it, then put your money where your mouths are, and write an email to Chris Meaghan the editor of On The Water:
cjm@onthewater.com
STOP BITCHING AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. |
first one has to figure out what to bitch about, hehe. 10,000 responses later....
my whole beach got burned this summer and still nobody showed up.
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09-20-2005, 02:53 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
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Beach - you're the excpetion to the rule - you're lucky to have a relative handful of people plying the beach at night... And its probably going to get real good for you down there now....
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09-20-2005, 03:09 PM
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Below Me
Join Date: May 2003
Location: low
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Beach - you're the excpetion to the rule - you're lucky to have a relative handful of people plying the beach at night... And its probably going to get real good for you down there now....
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first front this weekend. Suppossed to have a high in the 60's. GOT TO GET THESE WATER TEMPS DOWN ! I AM SCARED TO SEND ANYTHING OF VALUE OUT THERE FOR FEAR OF THE FREAKIN BLUES !
Bone's and albies STILL here.....
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09-20-2005, 03:43 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
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Originally Posted by beachwalker
first one has to figure out what to bitch about, hehe. 10,000 responses later....
my whole beach got burned this summer and still nobody showed up.
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Pro Tool Club....
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09-20-2005, 04:20 PM
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Below Me
Join Date: May 2003
Location: low
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Originally Posted by bassmaster
cept me |
that was a sad day indeed
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09-20-2005, 03:44 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
If you guys are not happy about it, then put your money where your mouths are, and write an email to Chris Meaghan the editor of On The Water:
cjm@onthewater.com
STOP BITCHING AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. |
Bill, Chris is the Publisher. Gene Bourque is the Editor. But yes I agree, spewing here isn't as good as sending off a letter or e-mail. They do cruise the sites checking on feedback as well though. They know what's being said, believe me. Hows the boat coming along? |
Why even try......... 
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