Oct. OTW - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Saltheart · 09-20-2005, 07:42 PM

Sometimes it only takes a few more people to ruin a spot where 2 people could have fished for years with no complaints.

The guy who has to make many trips to learn spots is going to appreciate it more when he finds a good one. He'll treat the ability to fish there as something valauble.
God knows who or how many will show up at the spots because they have a $5 guide (OTW Mag) to show them just where and how. The guys who get it easy tend to trash the places more.

I see it all the time. The guys who have put in their time are carrying out trash left behind by half a dozen first time fisherman at some spot that should have taken them 2 or 3 years to find and figure out. Thank god the Dunkin Donuts cups stack up or you could never handle all the trash they leave.

Anyway , its not the end of the world but I don't like the idea of mass media exposure of specific spots. I don't really care who's doing it , I just don't think its good for the sport.

I do think that the thread is excellent. Discussing the article and the access implications of naming spots too specifically will raise awareness and that is good for the sport.

As a moderator , I'm sure glad it was Steve who did this. If it had been #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& , this board would have been flaming for three weeks!!

Nebe · 09-20-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Saltheart

As a moderator , I'm sure glad it was Steve who did this. If it had been #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& , this board would have been flaming for three weeks!!

I heard that #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& typed it for him

Sea Dangles · 09-20-2005, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

I heard that #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& typed it for him

Who is #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&?

beachwalker · 09-20-2005, 08:27 PM

who's #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& ?

Sea Dangles · 09-20-2005, 08:31 PM

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who's #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& ?

I said it first.

STRIPER77 · 09-20-2005, 09:03 PM

Roger really gets it.
If you guys just sat down, caught a breath, and thought about it---you'd end up at the same place.
The thing I really worry about is what I hear people saying about this site---- "You can't have a discussion without mentioning a " spot" and then everyone jumps all over you and you never get an answer to your question,"
Maybe lighten--up?

JohnR · 09-20-2005, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by STRIPER77

Roger really gets it.
If you guys just sat down, caught a breath, and thought about it---you'd end up at the same place.
The thing I really worry about is what I hear people saying about this site---- "You can't have a discussion without mentioning a " spot" and then everyone jumps all over you and you never get an answer to your question,"
Maybe lighten--up?

I worry about that too but I am also worried that spots are going to be more and more in short supply - regardless of where they are - and that we are doing a disservice to ourselves and the sport...

Roger · 09-21-2005, 08:43 AM

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I worry about that too but I am also worried that spots are going to be more and more in short supply - regardless of where they are - and that we are doing a disservice to ourselves and the sport...

There is also a fine line there too. Often, we need more fishermen in the ranks in order to preserve access that we currently have. Remember Black Point? OTOH, as is often pointed out, poor behavior at most little out of the way spots will get you thrown out, etc.

Nebe · 09-21-2005, 09:01 AM

I have a solution.

I am going to write an expose' on Mckenna and #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. i will list where they are fishing NOW with maps how to get in there and where they cast and submit it to saltwater sportsman. This will give it National coverage as opposed to only new england.

send me 20 bucks and i'll send you the rough draft incase they never print it

i cant beleive he mentioned the mussell bed. there is only parking for 2 cars

Canalman · 09-21-2005, 09:24 AM

Nebe,

I have a few paragraphs written if you want to colaborate

JoeP · 09-21-2005, 09:29 AM

Take a look at page 12 or so in this month's Saltwater Sportsman. Some guy from down south submitted a letter of complaint to the SS Editor because last month an article was written in SS burning (offshore I think) spots down there.

His complaint was the same as mine and many others in this thread -- it is NOT the fear that someone will catch fish, it is the fear that a spot will be inundated with fisherman causing all kinds of problems -- loss of access being only one of those problems.

The problem is obviously not limited to us striper-fishermen in the Northeast.

For those of you who keep saying that this spot-burning is not a big issue, you are sadly mistaken. And the not-in-my backyard attitude is similarly wrong.

reelecstasy · 09-21-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

send me 20 bucks and i'll send you the rough draft incase they never print it

You got a paypal account

Squibby17 · 09-20-2005, 09:43 PM

I just spent a half hour reading this thread. I subscribe to OTW and I enjoy most of the articles. However it seems some stuff has been over looked here.

The magazine has several sections in the back every month which give reports about different sections (and spots) in NE. Soco, block island, upper cape etc. If thats not spot burning I don't know what is.

I'm from the south shore of Boston. Do you honestly think I'm going to drive to rhode island or cape cod and scout spots not having any idea of where to go? Especially these days? Many of you are living in fantasy world. People who enjoy things like fishing, skiing, cooking you name it, want information and they will get it one way or the other. I'm sorry to tell you.

I want spots, I'm not ashamed to say it. I guarante all the sharpies on this board have more than one spot that was shown to them or they heard about. I under stand if you have a couple secluded honey holes etc. I have those too and don't want them burned (cough cough....Ron Powers). But you bet your ass I'm going to research well known spots, Pt Jude, Race point etc before I spend $63 driving down there only to find out I'm fishing the wrong tide and half mile to the left from where I should be. Maybe I'm not a true surfcaster in the sense that I don't snorkel and scout every spot i try but honestly i don't have the time or $ to waste when I can have information that will help me for $ 27 a year. I respect the water I don't litter, I don't slam beers and discard beef jerky wrappers but perhaps I'm not a pure breed