Oct. OTW - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Redsoxticket · 09-21-2005, 04:33 PM

The vast majority of "class B googans" will not know about these spots because they probably do not subcribe to or buy OTW or even read for that matter.

Pt.JudeJoe · 09-21-2005, 05:06 PM

Just curious,did the traffic at these spots increase in the last month? I haven't seen the article, but if it is speaking about the 5 spots to get a 40 lb striper,Steve gave that same seminar at the last RISAA meeting in August.There were a couple hundred people at that meeting Iwould say . If you haven't already noticed an increase in fishermen there ,maybe there isn't so much to get all worked up about.

Finaddict · 09-21-2005, 05:14 PM

While I don't support or encourage spot burning in the media, I think that it has been summed up several times throughout this thread. While spots may get a little bump in traffic after an article, it is usually from googans who don't know what they are doing and will not come back again. So it always is a gamble with spots, but as just mentioned above, the crowds are likely to experience somewhat of a bump and then go back to the regulars for the most part. I have seen it happen time and time again year after year. The Fisherman has been doing it for 30 years, now is no different.

Nebe · 09-21-2005, 05:37 PM

i just read it...

If he had a soul, its gone now....

Slipknot · 09-21-2005, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

i just read it...

If he had a soul, its gone now....

and who is this, nebe? or bin?

Nebe · 09-21-2005, 06:04 PM

this is eben...
Mr. nibblesworth is on the prowl looking for bigguns in the suds//

Slipknot · 09-21-2005, 06:06 PM

hope you feel better soon.

JohnR · 09-21-2005, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pt.JudeJoe

Just curious,did the traffic at these spots increase in the last month? I haven't seen the article, but if it is speaking about the 5 spots to get a 40 lb striper,Steve gave that same seminar at the last RISAA meeting in August.There were a couple hundred people at that meeting Iwould say . If you haven't already noticed an increase in fishermen there ,maybe there isn't so much to get all worked up about.

Joe - there is a difference in a seminar to 50-200 people versus a widely read maggazine. He is not the first to do it - everyone of of those spots have been written about at least once (with the possible exception of one) in the past few years. But what is the pressure point that a spot gets shut down? When people see that one place to park is private and disregard the rules?

Please keep in mind that 70% of the people that read the article and follow and do it are not likely the problem, its the 30% that I'm worried about...

kippy · 09-21-2005, 06:57 PM

I just read the article..unbelievable. Two spots that I fish consistently were burned. It's bad enough that Steve writes about one spot every week in the fisherman and he goes ahead and draws detailed maps to it. How does he benefit from doing this? From what I have read he is a nice guy. Unfortunately,he has angered many fisherman in writing this article. I'm sending an e-mail to Gene Bourque voicing my displeasure.

JFigliuolo · 09-22-2005, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pt.JudeJoe

Just curious,did the traffic at these spots increase in the last month? I haven't seen the article, but if it is speaking about the 5 spots to get a 40 lb striper,Steve gave that same seminar at the last RISAA meeting in August.There were a couple hundred people at that meeting Iwould say . If you haven't already noticed an increase in fishermen there ,maybe there isn't so much to get all worked up about.

yes.

STREETFIGHT · 09-22-2005, 07:21 AM

WISH MY COPY WOULD GET HERE....

Back Beach · 09-22-2005, 07:48 AM

I think everyone seriously needs to get over the "spot burning" issue with Steve's article. On at least,say, ten occasions and perhaps more each season you will see how to and where to articles in the various publications. There is usually an immediate impact on the mentioned spots that leads to a short term overcrowding followed by a loss of interest in the mentioned areas, mostly by spot chasers. Confronting the author on this issue would for me seem ridiculous. There is plenty of reference material out there both new and old that fits the same bill as Steve's article, which was an informative piece, to say the least. It was not and will not be the last one you see, for sure. Since the inception of the internet and surf fishing related web sites, I have seen much greater impact on areas previously overlooked due to the net, not info that comes in print each month or week. Consider this: Everyone here likely has at least one or two close confidants that they share info with, myself included. Each of your confidants has one or two others they likely share info with. Get the picture? One seemingly innocent PM could possibly create overcrowding with as little as three or four people at a spot that can only support one or two people. Look at South County last fall for example, or the back side of the cape a few seasons back. Pointing the finger at an author is for the most part the pot calling the kettle black. As little as one month ago here some of us were bragging and boasting about the great fishing in spot x, and guess what, the next night there was no place to park or fish.

Arno · 09-22-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Beach

Confronting the author on this issue would for me seem ridiculous.

Since I was the one who suggested having a sitdown with Mr. McKenna, I'd like to respond to this. If you read my post, you'll see that all I suggested was that maybe talking to him might clear the air and could hopefully prevent future problems. I never suggested a confrontation in the literal sense. Just the opposite in fact. With all the bashing, I believe give the devil his due and let him tell his side of this story. I never met Mr. McKenna (unless I ran across him while fishing and we didn't exchange names), so there's no agenda here so to speak.

Anyway, as someone who loves the sport as much as the next guy, I stand by the belief that we should support one another and if a problem arises, we should go directly to the source and talk it out. Then take it from there, if necessary. But let me quickly point out that many of you guys seem to have a greater stake in this controversy than I do. So the direction you care to go with all of this belongs squarely with you.