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Old 09-27-2005, 09:30 AM   #1
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look i defended him before i read the article only knowing that he wrote an article about a few spots in narraganset, but after i read it and realised how in depth he went, and from what i know about what he might have in the works for future months, i have lost all respect for what he is up to... I have zero respect for people who sell out. Yes he sold out.

so i guess i voted for it after i voted agianst it..

He was probably the most respected surfcaster in narragnsett until this article came out, now he is probably the most hated.
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Old 09-27-2005, 09:44 AM   #2
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look i defended him before i read the article only knowing that he wrote an article about a few spots in narraganset, but after i read it and realised how in depth he went, and from what i know about what he might have in the works for future months, i have lost all respect for what he is up to... I have zero respect for people who sell out. Yes he sold out.

so i guess i voted for it after i voted agianst it..

He was probably the most respected surfcaster in narragnsett until this article came out, now he is probably the most hated.
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To be honest, I was just surprised how quickly some turned on him, after vehemently defending him here. Though I did gain new found respect for a couple guys who posted their opinions without regard to the social aspects of whom they fish with.
Personally, though never having met or fished w/ McKenna, I still respect the work he has done in the past for Rhody anglers, as well as his personal accomlishments and certainly dont hate him for making a fleeting mistake.
You've fished with him some, so your able to judge more strongly, if he's a sellout to Narr., that sucks
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Old 09-27-2005, 09:54 AM   #3
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look i defended him before i read the article only knowing that he wrote an article about a few spots in narraganset, but after i read it and realised how in depth he went, and from what i know about what he might have in the works for future months, i have lost all respect for what he is up to...

so i guess i voted for it after i voted agianst it.. .
But one thing I can't understand, and I am not starting something here,I just don't get this part, You said someone read it to you over the phone and you were still not pissed about the article, yet once you got it and read it yourself suddenly you hate the guy?? I really don't get that nebe. Can you explain?
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:09 AM   #4
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What I dont get is that a few months before in OTW, there was a 4 page article on fishing PJ light. It went into more detail (hence the 4 pages) than Steve's article. Why wasnt anyone upset about that?
Steve works in a tackle shop, obviously he knows the impact of his article, I truly do not think its a big deal and I fish 4 of teh 5 spots he mentions.
Everyone, regardless of skill level, commitment, expensive tackle, knowledge has a right to fish any of these spots, whenever they want. The serious bass fisherman do not have anymore right to these spots than total googs.
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:27 AM   #5
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You missed the point....at least the point Bryan and I were making. I don't care where anyone fishes. I've done this long enough so I have seen the sharpies come and go. The point is the article brought increased pressure on certain spots. This leads to problems with the public because of litter, parking, peeing, noise etc.
Steve wrote an article on PJ. So what? You ever have a problem with crowds at PJ? No, because it's a tough place to fish and you have to work for your fish. Besides, it's public access with lots of public parking. Try to fit more than 2 trucks at the private access to the A-Frame. Different story.
So, let's open the Kimona to every good spot that has limited access and throw the entire RI surf fishing scene into a real mess. How about you start with your 5 favorite spots and give directions to everyone and include where to cast and what to use and how to fish it.
And to quote you "Everyone, regardless of skill level, commitment, expensive tackle, knowledge has a right to fish any of these spots, whenever they want. The serious bass fisherman do not have anymore right to these spots than total googs."

So that's my point.....

No boat, back in the suds.
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:41 AM   #6
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Jim, what he said...
I had NO problem with them being there, I never felt crowded etc.. I just wanted to make a point that I felt the article brought more attention/people to that spot...
Also, I bet that the weekend after the PJ article came out, there were more people there...
The total googs have as much right to fish wherever they want, you're right... but in my opinion they shouldnt have detailed info handed to them on a silver platter... earn your spots/stripes is all I ask.. god knows I have/still am earning mine...
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:47 AM   #7
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Jim, what he said...
... earn your spots/stripes is all I ask.. god knows I have/still am earning mine...
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My feelings exactly. Allot of us work hard for our info. It's a slap in the face when it's given away by someone who knows better.
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:50 AM   #8
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And to think we get ridiculed for being upset over the article! I guess the proof is in the pudding. There is and will be an influx of new faces in those 5 spots and most of the other spots on the shore between goose and nap. Piemma and rirockhound are just affirming what many of us feared..........Thanks guys. I have seen many a new face with a 5 gallon bucket and a lantern at a place very near one of the spots mckenna mentioned, so the effect will be felt in other areas near to his 5 spots.
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:53 AM   #9
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Thanks guys. I have seen many a new face with a 5 gallon bucket and a lantern at a place very near one of the spots mckenna mentioned, so the effect will be felt in other areas near to his 5 spots.

That is to be expected this time of year. Fall brings the White Bucket Brigade out in force. Always has. I never used to fish before Labor Day back when I was a card carrying member.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:02 AM   #10
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... earn your spots/stripes is all I ask.. god knows I have/still am earning mine...
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I think this really is at the root of it all. How many of us had a grandfather or father teach us how to fish, without ever really giving much direct information...they led us and with their help we really learned (earned) on our own.

It's really about instant gratification anyway and cheap thrills. The vast majority of people don't care about being a good surfcaster, they just want to catch the fish.

People have the freedom to do what they want, but if your aim is to help preserve the tradition, there's nothing wrong with a little protectionisim. Just keep away from my spots

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Old 09-27-2005, 11:07 AM   #11
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I think this really is at the root of it all. How many of us had a grandfather or father teach us how to fish, without ever really giving much direct information...they led us and with their help we really learned (earned) on our own.

-spence

Or learned it all on there own. My father is a great man, but DAMN why couldn't he have fished??!?!?!?!?!?!
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Old 09-27-2005, 02:22 PM   #12
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This goes to everyone but with emphasis to Uffah and Eben.

NO POLITICAL CRAP ON THE MAIN BOARD!!!! Do it in Scuppers or Grumpy - NOT ON THE MAIN BOARD.


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Old 09-27-2005, 03:53 PM   #13
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Nebe, now you sound just like your IDLE "Kerry"
Ummm, it's spelled IDOL...

Don't feel bad, I'm sure your buddy Bush would have made the same mistake

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Old 09-27-2005, 06:00 PM   #14
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Nebe, now you sound just like your IDLE "Kerry"
not an idol, simply an alternative.
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Old 09-27-2005, 07:20 PM   #15
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If/when I get to go fish Lil Rhody, I would be PMing guys I know from here and elsewhere for specific gameplan. Same would go for any other roadtrips. (Got guidance from Capesams for my Memorial Day Cape trip.) That article isn't gonna get me in my car to get my 40 in Rhody, but it will affect the occassional (yuppy) angler who lives nearby. Hell, they gotta get the mag to read it.

I will email OTW as a subscriber, and ask that they state their intent and policy with regards to such articles, and to present an angler ettiquette piece in the future. But that article is done. Let's move on to fishing the fall to the fullest each of us can.

OTW, are you lurking by any chance? Care to comment? (Only time I've seen that was the guy from Penn when they shut down their US production, remember?)

And yes, if members are heading up this neck of the woods, I will show you where you're most likely to hook up. I am gonna share some with a serious striper fisherman. Just ask TDF, Clogston, Luds48, Scottie, to name a few.

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