Spot X - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

RIJIMMY · 09-27-2005, 11:56 AM

Whats with the "white bucket" comments? I carry my eels in one, where do you carry yours? Waders?

RIROCKHOUND · 09-27-2005, 12:02 PM

Jim, again, my point was ONLY that the article brought more pressure to the spots, thats it...
I carry my eels in a soft cooler/lunch bag thing...

Krispy · 09-27-2005, 12:03 PM

mesh eel bag, mayonaisse jar w/ strap, small soft-sided cooler.
A bucket is kinda big for a dozen eels, eh?

RIJIMMY · 09-27-2005, 12:06 PM

I ice em wth 2 buckets, one with holes in it draining the water. been doin it for years, my dad did it for 30 before me.

bart · 09-27-2005, 12:10 PM

comparing PJ to the spot bryan is referring to is like comparing apples to oranges. Pj can support 5 times the number of people the other spot can.

RIJIMMY · 09-27-2005, 12:14 PM

I wasnt comparing the spot I was comparing the article.
So, the rule should be, dont write about spots with limited access, only write about spots with large parking lots.

SeaWolf · 09-27-2005, 12:28 PM

continuing on from what's been said in this thread and the otw one, is this the beginning of what is to come from magazines such as otw, the fishermen, nor'east, etc.? are they asking for these types of articles to please a certain population of angler and not caring about the other caveats that may now arise? if so, i think it is poor judgement. in this day and age it is also the responsibility of these magazines to look out into all these msg boards (local ones for the region) for what is said, especially when they are the focus. also, anglers need to send their comments in. how many that were upset with the article still have not sent an email to otw editors? if not, dont complain. if you did, good for you and you may be part of the difference if one is decided.

while some say that they have seen more anglers fishing at spot x or z listed in that article, imagine seeing spot j or w or s that was hot the last 2 nights being posted continuously in report areas by one or several anglers. imagine seeing those day-late, dollar-short anglers now coming down asking where to cast and how it was as they heard about it on the internet. how does that taste? and i'm supposed to open my log book to them? you have a rod, there's the water, learn like the rest of us and learn to fish, not catch. you may just earn some respect from those around you as well.

MakoMike · 09-27-2005, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaWolf

continuing on from what's been said in this thread and the otw one, is this the beginning of what is to come from magazines such as otw, the fishermen, nor'east, etc.? are they asking for these types of articles to please a certain population of angler and not caring about the other caveats that may now arise? if so, i think it is poor judgement. in this day and age it is also the responsibility of these magazines to look out into all these msg boards (local ones for the region) for what is said, especially when they are the focus. also, anglers need to send their comments in. how many that were upset with the article still have not sent an email to otw editors? if not, dont complain. if you did, good for you and you may be part of the difference if one is decided.
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I do a lot of writing for Nor'east, and I can tell you that they are not soliciting these types of articles. OTOH if someone throws that kind of manuscript "over the transom" they are unlikely to turn it down. Like it or not, it does provide valuable information to a lot of their readers. You are right on with your comments about making your views known to the publishers. Nor'east has its own website at Noreast.com where you can post your comments, or you can write or call them directly. Either way you opt to go, they (and I) will appreciate hearing your views. One thing puzzles me, and this is aimed at everyone, not just you. Why don't guys get pissed off when a tackle shop points out the places to go, why single out the print media?

BasicPatrick · 09-27-2005, 08:00 PM

Seawolf,

I am not sure if we have ever met, however I know some guys that know you. Hence, I am assuming that you have been around for a while. It it this knowledge that has me baffled at your statement.

Magazines have been publishing articles like this for years and years and years. Just for SH%TS & GIGGLES I went into my files. You see I disect magazines when they are read and file certain articles that appeal to me. I have four articles from OTW & The Fisherman that give between 75% and 100% of the information contained in Mckenna's article on the Narrow River. I am not saying that these type of articles are good at all. All I am saying is that there is nothing new about this one. I think what has people all up in arms is who wrote it and not what was written. If this was Flap or Frank D, or even Fisheye I think the responses would be quite different.

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Originally Posted by SeaWolf

continuing on from what's been said in this thread and the otw one, is this the beginning of what is to come from magazines such as otw, the fishermen, nor'east, etc.? are they asking for these types of articles to please a certain population of angler and not caring about the other caveats that may now arise? if so, i think it is poor judgement. in this day and age it is also the responsibility of these magazines to look out into all these msg boards (local ones for the region) for what is said, especially when they are the focus. also, anglers need to send their comments in. how many that were upset with the article still have not sent an email to otw editors? if not, dont complain. if you did, good for you and you may be part of the difference if one is decided.

while some say that they have seen more anglers fishing at spot x or z listed in that article, imagine seeing spot j or w or s that was hot the last 2 nights being posted continuously in report areas by one or several anglers. imagine seeing those day-late, dollar-short anglers now coming down asking where to cast and how it was as they heard about it on the internet. how does that taste? and i'm supposed to open my log book to them? you have a rod, there's the water, learn like the rest of us and learn to fish, not catch. you may just earn some respect from those around you as well.

tynan19 · 09-27-2005, 12:30 PM

Jimmy I keep them in a 3way bucket for transport also but when I get to the area I am fishing, they go in a soft sided cooler with a frozen plastic ice block. Then you can just throw this on your shoulder. Better mobility than having to carry a bucket around.

RIJIMMY · 09-27-2005, 12:32 PM

Hmmm, I like that T, may have to give it a shot.
I have a little soft side cooler I can use too, the eels dont sufficate with the lid closed?

kayaman · 09-27-2005, 01:14 PM

the influx probably won't last long.... they will check it out but after a week or so they will move on to other spots that are X'ed out

piemma · 09-27-2005, 01:33 PM

I carry my eels in an old plastic mayo jar on my belt. I'll check my posts but I don't believe I made any derogatory remarks regarding 'white buckets".

RIJIMMY · 09-27-2005, 01:36 PM

Not you Pie, someone did and I was very sad.

spence · 09-27-2005, 01:43 PM

In the 18th century, the white bucket was seen as a sign of affluence.

-spence

choggieman · 09-27-2005, 01:59 PM

I mentioned the white buckets, but did not mean it in a derogatory way. I used to carry my gear in a bucket when I started. My point was more to the fact that there were 12 guys shoulder to shoulder spread over 35 yards at a spot that there usually isn't that many. What I should have referred to was the unbeleivable number of head lamps and flashlights on a very moonlit night, especially the ones in the water constantly. There just seems to be more new faces that are in the beginning stage of surffishing. It would probably be great for someone to write an article about etiquette and ethics in surfishing. Maybe then the crowding and head lamps and inconsideration for others would start to wane. Nothing like standing on a rock and having two yahoos jump in front of you........
The idea of spot burning has always fired me up, but since the OTW article, I have been more and more conscious of it. I have lost patience with people who insist on blabbing, wether it be in print or on a website. I just read a thread on another site over in ct and the blabbing about soco was unbeleivable...... so do not be surprised when we all see lotsa new faces at the spots Mckenna omitted. And when we do, we have someone to thank.
I also fish in less than favorable conditions and am seeing more guys at these spots than I ever have. I cannot imagine what it'll be like when its nice.

JFigliuolo · 09-27-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Not you Pie, someone did and I was very sad.

And I made it quite clear I was in that camp for awhile... Are we THAT politically correct that where bieng called a white bucket brigade members is offensive? Sad....

RIJIMMY · 09-27-2005, 02:55 PM

I was totally kidding about the bucket! Geeeez, everyone needs to lighten up!

*LB · 09-27-2005, 03:31 PM

Speaking of eel storage . . . one day this summer I was fishing Rhody's Western most spot and I came I came across a cool eel bucket with a half-dozen fresh snakes that someone must have dropped (I was the only one out there at the time so I took the liberty of grabbing it). It was a plastic Folgers coffee can with a screw on lid, and it had a belt woven into two slits in the side of the can - it must have been made to wear around the waste. A pretty slick and inexpensive set up. To make a long story short, I didn't catch any fish that night until I started using those eels I found. If the person who lost them reads this - Thanks!

I prefer a small soft-sided cooler myself. Wal-Fart sells a cheap one that has a Velcro trap door in the top that makes it easy to grab the slimy buggers without having to zip anything up after. A big blue ice pack keeps them well-behaved until I can get a hook in 'em.

I still haven't been able to find a place in town that sells OTW magazine. I was curious to know if any spots in Westerly were mentioned - not that I need another spot to fish, I was just wanted to see if there was any increase in traffic due to the article. I was surprised at the number of people at one spot last Saturday at dusk. It could have been a coincidence, but . . .

Squibby17 · 09-27-2005, 01:49 PM

To be honest, I posted in the ridiculously long thread before hand not having received my issue of OTW. I more or less said that guys are going to want information before going to a new spot, and in general people cut corners when they can, god knows I do.

however after reading OTW when IT FINALLY came, I'm a little more under standing as to why you rhody guys are upset. That article was way more detailed than it probably should have been. This past weekend I went to a honey hole spot that I found and researched alot, and got into some nice fish. This spot does not have lots of parking and is extremely close to some wealthy land owners. If it was burned I would be pissed too. I take back some of the previous posts i made in the OTW thread because I hadn't read the article and didn't think how it would be if it was my spot.

rivsie11 · 09-27-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spence

In the 18th century, the white bucket was seen as a sign of affluence.

chris L · 09-27-2005, 07:35 PM

get a home dirtpile orange colored one . no racial undertones

I KILL MYSELF SOMETIMES

Mr. Sandman · 09-29-2005, 06:06 AM

Don't get mad, get even. Give him a taste of his own teachings. Burn a couple of his private honey holes. It can be done, it is not as hard as it sounds. Write your own article...something like...Striper hotspots SM actually fishes, by Suds Anguilla" And demand OTW publish it in fairness and blast it on the web as well.

Or

complain to OTW about printing that kind of low blow article and how it impacts serious anglers.

JohnR · 09-29-2005, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

Don't get mad, get even. Give him a taste of his own teachings. Burn a couple of his private honey holes. It can be done, it is not as hard as it sounds. Write your own article...something like...Striper hotspots SM actually fishes, by Suds Anguilla" And demand OTW publish it in fairness and blast it on the web as well.

Or

complain to OTW about printing that kind of low blow article and how it impacts serious anglers.

Several things - further spot burning would not do any justice (regardless that I fish some of those other spots that he fishes). The places he mentioned ARE places he fishes too, maybe not as regularly as others but I've been to some this year as has he.