Spot burning and surf etiquette

[choggieman]

johnr you could write the article your self!
makomike, if you get all your info for the artcile from s-b, why not make it an s-b backed (publicly) write up and maybe donate some of the money from the article back to s-b.com?

[Strider]

You don't step on bass to remove hooks and then kick them back into the water. If you can't hold a fish and remove the hooks, then get a lip lock device. Bottom line, respect the fishery.

[bloocrab]

"Don't even take up fishing, it's already over-crowded and over-rated"....


Drink Beer, it costs less -

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by bloocrab

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Drink Beer, it costs less -

Golf is the other 4 letter sport and its easier on the wallett and the marriage...

Choggie - I have thought of it in the past. But that is also part of the mission statement here at S-B. To allow fishers to become better anglers, more involved and more aware, and to give back to the fishing community....

I think MakoMike would be writing for another site

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Golf is the other 4 letter sport and its easier on the wallett and the marriage...

I don't know about easier on the wallet....or marriage. Everytime you want to golf 18 it is going to cost you at least $40 (and thats w/out a cart)and at least 5 hours of prime (for the wife) daytime hours to do it. and not to mention the $2 a ball for everyone that i put in the woods.....and thats usually at least a 1/2 dozen per nine.


definitely not easier on the wallet

[Arno]

I should've mentioned this in my post up above... but I have a friend who sometimes comes fishing with us. Great guy, however... All you'd have to do is come with us and write down everything he does. You'll have enough what-not-to-do etiquette tips to last a lifetime. <insert frowning icon here>

[striprman]

Get offa my rock

[tattoobob]

Tell them to take up golf or bowling

[chipwood]

I've seen so many guys fishing I've never seen before out there. This time of year brings 'em out anyway. There's always been magazines or books telling guys where to go and they'll always be guys or gals writing to make a buck. But being on the web I see so many guys looking for clues and spots and what to use, it's pretty unbeleivable. That's what happens with all the modes of communication and information. What ever happened to going out there and learning the hard way. Everyone wants instant gratification. It took me years before I was able to learn spots when I was younger. Meeting the right person on the water or just getting lucky and finally figuring things out. When I see guys spouting on the web or guys writing specifics in a magazine to make themselves look like they're some kind of master fisherman makes me sick. What about all those guys who've spent years learning to catch fish with their mouths shut. I'm not gonna discourage anyone from fishing because over time the people who fish to be trendy will fall to the wayside and the guys who really enjoy and respect the water will keep at it. As a person whose passionate about fishing there's a time to open your mouth and there's also a time to keep it shut.

[Bazza]

When fishing on a Jetty, leave the radio at home or in the car.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by chipwood

I've seen so many guys fishing I've never seen before out there. This time of year brings 'em out anyway. There's always been magazines or books telling guys where to go and they'll always be guys or gals writing to make a buck. But being on the web I see so many guys looking for clues and spots and what to use, it's pretty unbeleivable. That's what happens with all the modes of communication and information. What ever happened to going out there and learning the hard way. Everyone wants instant gratification. It took me years before I was able to learn spots when I was younger. Meeting the right person on the water or just getting lucky and finally figuring things out. When I see guys spouting on the web or guys writing specifics in a magazine to make themselves look like they're some kind of master fisherman makes me sick. What about all those guys who've spent years learning to catch fish with their mouths shut. I'm not gonna discourage anyone from fishing because over time the people who fish to be trendy will fall to the wayside and the guys who really enjoy and respect the water will keep at it. As a person whose passionate about fishing there's a time to open your mouth and there's also a time to keep it shut.

good post

[Striperknight]

If you travel to another state to fish take the time to learn the fish size regs and limits.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by choggieman

johnr you could write the article your self!
makomike, if you get all your info for the artcile from s-b, why not make it an s-b backed (publicly) write up and maybe donate some of the money from the article back to s-b.com?

It depends on where its published, a lot of the magazines, except for the fisherman, have their own web site and would probably frown on mentionig a competitor. The money ain't great, but if enough magazines pick it up, I will give some $$ to S-B.com.

John, I intend to queery more than just Nor'east on this, so it may appear in several places, including one of the nationals.

[Rob Rockcrawler]

If you show up to a place where people are pluggin take your bait bucket about a hundred yards away. We dont cast just straight out in front. And at the canal, realize that stuff tends to drift with the current, like my eels, and they drift pretty far so once again keep moving. Lastly, n matter how bad the urge if the fish start biting infront of one angler dont do the mad dash and crowd it up, just wait and they will likely head towards you and if they dont, you know I FEEL.

[labrax]

I'd say go over:

1) How to handle the fish that they are most likely to run across like stripers and blues. You can grab a bluefish behind the head to hold it - don't need to step on it. Put fish back in the water - don't throw them back in the water from any height.

2) Don't keep the fish out of the water for prolonged period of time. I have seen more than a few people on the Merrimack with obviously short fish drag the fish up through the soft sand to their bag so they can root around for a tape measure. Inevitably the fish ends up belly up.

3) If fishing from jetty - have an idea where you are going to land the fish, so you aren't banging it off the rocks up to you and if you do go close to the water you have a decent place to stand.

4) Know the regulations for your state, or the state you are fishing. Higrading fish is not legal - keeping them on a stringer in the hopes that you will catch a bigger one.

5) Don't litter - not just bait containers, but also mono - don't toss mono on the beach or in the water.

6) Don't crowd other anglers - give them some space.

7) Maybe add something about conservation. Catch and release as an option. That the older larger fish are almost always females and that they are more fecund than the smaller fish. If you don't intend to eat it - then why not consider putting it back. Also, for someone new to fishing - tell them about using proper gear to do the job. While you can catch fish on light gear - why not wait until you have more experience playing and landing fish. Get an outfit that will do the job, not overly heavy, but good enough to land a decent fish - don't want to bring a knife to a gunfight.

My $0.02

Pete

[greenmeanie]

If someone catches a fish don't run over there and cast right next to him while he is taking it off!

And for taking a kid fishing I get nothing but eye rolls on the breech when I bring my son and he gets caught up. He dosn't even want to go anymore

[NIB]

Originally Posted by greenmeanie

If someone catches a fish don't run over there and cast right next to him while he is taking it off!

And for taking a kid fishing I get nothing but eye rolls on the breech when I bring my son and he gets caught up. He dosn't even want to go anymore

Its too bad i was not with u to see the eyerollers.i would set em straight.People are jerks.anyone who would discourage a kid from fishin should have their poles snapped in half.they don't deserve to own em.The other day during a blitz a kid was trowin behind me an he had some kinda reel problem.His plug got hung when he could not retrieve it. he was gonna just bust it off i saw this an got off my rock an went to the beach to get his plug back in for him.Was the only thing to do.

[bart]

Originally Posted by NIB

Its too bad i was not with u to see the eyerollers.i would set em straight.People are jerks.anyone who would discourage a kid from fishin should have their poles snapped in half.they don't deserve to own em.The other day during a blitz a kid was trowin behind me an he had some kinda reel problem.His plug got hung when he could not retrieve it. he was gonna just bust it off i saw this an got off my rock an went to the beach to get his plug back in for him.Was the only thing to do.

its true, i witnessed this random act of kindness

[Slingah]

Originally Posted by greenmeanie

If someone catches a fish don't run over there and cast right next to him while he is taking it off!

And for taking a kid fishing I get nothing but eye rolls on the breech when I bring my son and he gets caught up. He dosn't even want to go anymore

Right on NIB...good 4 you helpin the kid....and greenmeanie the next time those elitist turds shoot you a look give him the finger and tell your kid he has as much right to be there as anyone else......

[striperjerk1]

we are sportsman are we not? lets not turn this thread into a moaning and groaning session. my input. keep youre distance away from the next fisher so as not to tangle youre lines. and if thats not possible go somewhere else. simple common sense. its fishing and having fun.

[Bass Babe]

Originally Posted by labrax

That the older larger fish are almost always females and that they are more fecund than the smaller fish. If you don't intend to eat it - then why not consider putting it back.

It is true that larger females of any fish species do tend to produce more eggs in one season than their smaller counterparts. But reproductive potential also comes into play -- the number of mature offspring a fish can be expected to produce at a given age or size. The smaller fish actually have a better probability of living to the next year (and onward) and reproducing again, so that leaves them with many years of fish babies ahead of them, and, therefore, a higher reproductive potential, which can be just as important as straight up fecundity. But guessing which individual fish is gonna die first? It's a crapshoot. If you're gonna eat it, keep the legal fish that you fought the longest and/or seems least likely to survive.

More rules:

1. Please don't assume I'm a man and address me as such. It's especially disconcerting if you still deny my gender once I and my exclusive-to-women parts have turned around to face you.

2. If you feel you must give me advice, be helpful and not condescending -- no matter how good a fisherman you think you are.

3. Don't set up to fish a cooking current just 20 feet away from me unless you want to spoon later.

4. Leave your lantern/bat signal at home.

5. Realize that some people are much more serious about fishing than others, and heed the collection of rules. It's way easier for you to not piss them off than for them to get their panties out of the knot your presence/googan-ality/newbie-ness will cause. Think of the greater good, and reduce the grump section of the board.

PS I had a real good fishing teacher and majored in fisheries, so I got to hop, skip, and jump up the learning curve a bit, but technically, I am still SO new that it feels weird, like I should be the one these rules are directed towards, and I should have a bucket of chunk and upside-down spinning reel, shining a light in the water.

[Raven]

should be....

.............be excellent to everyone....





and great thought Mako.... your on the "perfect" quest.

[Raven]

thinking....

[jimmyCT]

one think I dont like is people who leave their head lamps on while they are fishing or shine lights into the water.

people casting over other lines is not a big deal, it happens and generally people spread out if it happens enough. What I dont like is people who will intentionally cast over other peoples lines in effort to displace people who were there first and then brag about displacing the people to fish "their" spots. It seems to happen alot these days.

People using the dark as an excuse to pee just about everywhere is not necessily good. It tends to leave a stink by morning and its not hard to figure out where it came from.

The thing about spot burning is not something that everyone agrees on. There are limits to how much pressure a spot can take and to much pressure is not good. For guys who consider themselves local experts, its probably good to find out of the way places with rights of way to fish rather then public spots that are common knowledge. Most of the public spots are listed everywhere, from newpapers, internet reports on bullliten board sites, tackle shops, online tackle shop fishing reports, shore fishing books/guides (on the water and Daingaults), online magazine fishign reports (ex: on the water online report), newspapers, surf fishign club reports and lectures, private message from bulliten boards sites, and magazines like on the water and the fishermen. Some people do try to over exaggerate the extent of influce of one source without looking at the whole and those people are probably new the sport or ever had to take the time to learn it on their own. .. There really is about 90% more people out in the last 5 years and most of them are new to the sport and dont even know it.