Too bad Yank's

[Elmo]

I'm with you professor, just love to see the yanks lose! As much as I love the rsox I do find it a little humorous that the teams with the biggest payrolls are gonna be watching the WS from home. Something really has to be done to even the playing field in baseball so that all teams compete. Maybe not this year but statistically speaking, buying championships does work, the yanks are proof of that.

[Bassman18]

Originally Posted by Elmo

Maybe not this year but statistically speaking, buying championships does work, the yanks are proof of that.

The red sox might be a better example. With the exception of nixon and varitek, almost everyone on the roster has been bought within the last few years. Not to mention, five players on the yankees' active roster have never played for any other team other than the yanks. If you look at the last time the yankees won the world series (2000), there were seven players then that have only played with the yanks. Facts and figures do show that the yankees obviously pay an insane amount of money on their players, just because they can. The red sox, on the other hand can't afford to pay their players as lucratively, however, they purchased a lot more players at a lower cost. If you look at it on the other hand, if the red sox did have the same money as the yankees, do you honestly expect that the red sox will still pay what they're paying now, or would they make the same offers the yankees make. All in all, the yankees pay more for fewer players, while the red sox pay less for more players...with that in mind, in order to beat the yankees, you gotta be the yankees; especially in this day and age where baseball, sadly, is now becoming more and more business-minded, rather than it just being a game.

Lastly, I think this rivalry has taken a turn for the worst, it probably started off innocently, but lately, after living in boston for the last two years, I can see that it's much more than a simple rivalry, it's full-blown hatred that should be toned down a lot. You guys beat the yankees, and finally got your world series trophy in an epic postseason series that no one will ever forget, now what more do you need?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Bassman18

now what more do you need?

The Total Collapse of the Yankees Empire, The Tearing down of Yankee Stadium, Steinbrenner filing for bankruptcy, and Jeter and A-Fraud finally coming out of the closet nationally and Admitting thay are Homosexual Lovers.

Then I'll have everything I need...

[kippy]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The Total Collapse of the Yankees Empire, The Tearing down of Yankee Stadium, Steinbrenner filing for bankruptcy, and Jeter and A-Fraud finally coming out of the closet nationally and Admitting thay are Homosexual Lovers.

Then I'll have everything I need...

I think the last part has been confirmed, look at A-rods lips!

[Arno]

quoting the prof' up above: "Now to see who George goes out and buys in the off season to see if we have a chance to compete."

Well, it seems GS's attention is going to have to include a pitching coach - since Mel Stottlemyre called it quits. Can't say as I blame him - 'cause of the way Steinbrenner treats some of his players and coaches. Like Don Zimmer, to use just one example.

'Been following baseball for a good many years. No favorite teams, just enjoy watching crisp well played baseball. And while rivalries are all part of the game, I never could understand the mutual hatred shared by some Red Sox and Yankee fans. Just uncontrolled misplaced anger (imo). But on the other hand, to each his own, I suppose.
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[Mike P]

I would also suspect he's gonna need a new GM, as Cashman's contract expires on Halloween, and it's widely rumored here that Cashman is fed up with having his authority undercut by the Tampa crowd and team president Randy Levine.

I don't think George will do a lot of big-name shopping. Most of his big money guys are still under contract. Not re-upping Bernie Williams and Kevin Brown will free up $27 million, but Matsui's deal is also up and he's gonna command a lot more than what he's currently making (8 million). And, I think he's still paying a good piece of Soriano's contract with the Rangers as part of the A-Rod trade.

His two aces, Johnson and Mussina, will be a year older and neither has ever been a post-season phenom But, he's stuck with them. He might be more active in the trade market than the free agent one.

Some of the fixes bandied about in the papers down here are laughable--like trading Sheffield for Manny Like, Epstein would ever be dumb enough to trade Manny within the Division, let alone to the Yankees. Altho watching Manny try to play right field would be worth the entertainment value

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The Total Collapse of the Yankees Empire, The Tearing down of Yankee Stadium, Steinbrenner filing for bankruptcy, and Jeter and A-Fraud finally coming out of the closet nationally and Admitting thay are Homosexual Lovers.

Then I'll have everything I need...

OK, that had me laughing my ass off

Originally Posted by Mike P

I would also suspect he's gonna need a new GM, as Cashman's contract expires on Halloween, and it's widely rumored here that Cashman is fed up with having his authority undercut by the Tampa crowd and team president Randy Levine.

I don't think George will do a lot of big-name shopping. Most of his big money guys are still under contract. Not re-upping Bernie Williams and Kevin Brown will free up $27 million, but Matsui's deal is also up and he's gonna command a lot more than what he's currently making (8 million). And, I think he's still paying a good piece of Soriano's contract with the Rangers as part of the A-Rod trade.

His two aces, Johnson and Mussina, will be a year older and neither has ever been a post-season phenom But, he's stuck with them. He might be more active in the trade market than the free agent one.

Some of the fixes bandied about in the papers down here are laughable--like trading Sheffield for Manny Like, Epstein would ever be dumb enough to trade Manny within the Division, let alone to the Yankees. Altho watching Manny try to play right field would be worth the entertainment value

Epstein wouldn't mind having GS take his 20+ mil so they could get pitching and more. That's part of why the past two years they've dangled him on the wire hoping Georgy would come take the bait...

A-Rod is NOT the MVP, that would be Ortiz - How many games did A-Rod "win"? How many were "clutch"?

[ProfessorM]

Originally Posted by Bassman18

Lastly, I think this rivalry has taken a turn for the worst, it probably started off innocently, but lately, after living in boston for the last two years, I can see that it's much more than a simple rivalry, it's full-blown hatred that should be toned down a lot. You guys beat the yankees, and finally got your world series trophy in an epic postseason series that no one will ever forget, now what more do you need?

This rivarly has had hatred involved in it for many many years, not just recently. It will never tone down. That is what makes it great.

[MoroneSaxatilis]

Originally Posted by Professor Moriarty

This rivarly has had hatred involved in it for many many years, not just recently. It will never tone down. That is what makes it great.

I have heard/read interviews from members of the '78 Sox team who said that they had a true "hatred" of the Yanks.