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10-13-2005, 01:32 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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I would also suspect he's gonna need a new GM, as Cashman's contract expires on Halloween, and it's widely rumored here that Cashman is fed up with having his authority undercut by the Tampa crowd and team president Randy Levine.
I don't think George will do a lot of big-name shopping. Most of his big money guys are still under contract. Not re-upping Bernie Williams and Kevin Brown will free up $27 million, but Matsui's deal is also up and he's gonna command a lot more than what he's currently making (8 million). And, I think he's still paying a good piece of Soriano's contract with the Rangers as part of the A-Rod trade.
His two aces, Johnson and Mussina, will be a year older and neither has ever been a post-season phenom  But, he's stuck with them. He might be more active in the trade market than the free agent one.
Some of the fixes bandied about in the papers down here are laughable--like trading Sheffield for Manny  Like, Epstein would ever be dumb enough to trade Manny within the Division, let alone to the Yankees. Altho watching Manny try to play right field would be worth the entertainment value  |
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10-13-2005, 05:58 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
The Total Collapse of the Yankees Empire, The Tearing down of Yankee Stadium, Steinbrenner filing for bankruptcy, and Jeter and A-Fraud finally coming out of the closet nationally and Admitting thay are Homosexual Lovers.
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OK, that had me laughing my ass off 
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Originally Posted by Mike P
I would also suspect he's gonna need a new GM, as Cashman's contract expires on Halloween, and it's widely rumored here that Cashman is fed up with having his authority undercut by the Tampa crowd and team president Randy Levine.
I don't think George will do a lot of big-name shopping. Most of his big money guys are still under contract. Not re-upping Bernie Williams and Kevin Brown will free up $27 million, but Matsui's deal is also up and he's gonna command a lot more than what he's currently making (8 million). And, I think he's still paying a good piece of Soriano's contract with the Rangers as part of the A-Rod trade.
His two aces, Johnson and Mussina, will be a year older and neither has ever been a post-season phenom But, he's stuck with them. He might be more active in the trade market than the free agent one.
Some of the fixes bandied about in the papers down here are laughable--like trading Sheffield for Manny Like, Epstein would ever be dumb enough to trade Manny within the Division, let alone to the Yankees. Altho watching Manny try to play right field would be worth the entertainment value |
Epstein wouldn't mind having GS take his 20+ mil so they could get pitching and more. That's part of why the past two years they've dangled him on the wire hoping Georgy would come take the bait...
A-Rod is NOT the MVP, that would be Ortiz - How many games did A-Rod "win"? How many were "clutch"? |
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10-13-2005, 10:23 PM
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quote: "Altho watching Manny try to play right field would be worth the entertainment value"
Right. But not for Yankee fans. 
Yup - we can all agree that no way in the world will Ramirez be a Yankee. Steinbrenner would have to give up the ghost first. Besides, the Yankee fans would never put up with his nonsense. I figure they'd run him outta' town on a rail.
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10-14-2005, 10:56 AM
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Uncle Remus
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quote: Besides, the Yankee fans would never put up with his nonsense. I figure they'd run him outta' town on a rail.
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Baloney. When Manny hit 45 homers and drove in 140 RBI's they would put up with it just like we do up here. They have put up with all kinds of jerks in the past several years on Georges all mercenary team. K. Brown, Sheffield, Mr. personality R. Johnson, R. Mon., and of course the admitted cheater, steroid user Giambino. Hell they were ready to hang the guy from the Empire State building last year paying him all that cash and now he hits a few homers and he is great again. He was even voted, not by the fans, the comeback player of the year award. An admittted cheater WTF. So I think the NY fans would put up with Manny being Manny in a NY minute. To quote Al Davis " just win baby" is all that matters to them. Paul
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10-14-2005, 10:36 PM
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Below Me
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it's alla bunch of shiite.
we won 2 more games than the sox this year and have a division championship to boot. end of story. see you in the spring
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10-14-2005, 10:57 PM
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I was referring to on-field shenanigans. ON-field. Off the field, many ML ballplayers can be idiots. No big deal. But there are not that many players who have pulled the chit on the field that Manny Ramirez has. Can that honestly be denied?
And yes, the fans still love him. But not nearly as much toward the end of the season, for sure. Even the Boston sports writers were tiring of his antics - and wrote as much. And if you read some of the articles in the baseball magazines, you'll see many writers have offered the same.
As for him in New York - as I said, I don't think the fans would tolerate him. Not for long, anyway. That's my opinion. But chances are good we'll never know.
Being neither a Red Sox nor a Yankee fan, I'm not bridled by blind fan devotion. So we non-fans can be a bit more objective. Not necessarily more accurate in our opinions, just more objective.
By the way, I'm not about to defend Yankee players - the ones you mentioned in your post in particular. As said, I'm not a Yankee fan anyway, and I definitely don't care for Steinbrenner.
Ramirez is, of course, a gifted batter. But I can't remember any ball player who's pulled more on-the-field stunts and blunders as he has. But yet, a large segment of the fans love him. "He's our Manny", as the expression goes. Ya' gotta' love it.
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10-15-2005, 04:41 AM
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Below Me
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it's cool on this end. i'm just messing about
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10-15-2005, 12:43 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
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The end of the season and playoffs are when he shined. If it was not for him and Ortiz they would have been looking in at the playoffs, probably would have been better that way. I am just busting your jewels. I think any fans would like his offense and probably put up with it to get it. True he is a fruitcake but as long as he drives in runs I personally can over look his shenanigans. I know what you are saying I just think differently. Go Celtics BTW that is the name of my boat, Shennanigans. Paul |
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