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10-26-2005, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Van,
Sounds like a good deal to me. The wrench alone is worth about $25. Beware when you take the cylinder apart, there a several other internal seals in there that you'll have to be very acreful not to damage.
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11-14-2005, 07:02 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
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Got the cylinder in the basement, noticed just a bit of atinaing on the shaft, nothing that won't clean off easy.
BUT, I'm wondering if anyone knows if I pull the shaft out with the center seal to inspect it, will I be able to get it back in ?
Got the kit from teleflex as promised (free), came with the two ends with complete seals, and some o-rings for other fittings. But I want to inspect and clean out the center piston, but I'm not sure, any advice is appreciated.
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11-15-2005, 07:50 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Van,
If you got the complete kit, you should also have the O rings that seal the center section, so you can completely disassemble it.
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11-26-2005, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
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Now i peesed.. Got the cylinder apart in my workroom and found only slight staining on the shaft.. OK, not too bad, I'll spin it on the lathe at work and polish it up--no problem....
BUT, took a peek into the cylinder and there is pitting on the walls. The seal in the middle of the shaft looks OK, but with pitting in there, its gonna scrap, and get damaged. I think that was the original problem, corrosion crud from the pitting got in the fluid and destroyed the seals. But it also means I prolly got water in there HOW THE %$^#& DID THAT HAPPEN??????????
This stupid thing has had issues from day one.
IMO its crappy products to cut costs. They are probably skimping on the materials, and I'll bet its made overseas........
I will contact teleflex again and see what they say. I think I'm looking at a new cylinder now too.
So either i replace it or I clean it up as well as possible and see if I get one more season out of it..
after that (or if it fails) ITS COMING OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll go with the new mechanical NFB system...screw this fluid and bleeding and leaking and helms gone bad CRAP !!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll sell the parts (helm and hoses) on ebay and maybe recoop some of the $$$$$$$$$$. |
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Things done at the last possible minute are done with the greatest possible information. Procrastination is, therefore, the most efficient means of doing things.
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11-27-2005, 04:17 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
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Van,
Depending on the orientation of your cylinder, see if you can end for end it. We routinely do this at work on the ship if it can be done. That way the seal rides in a different "better" spot than it was and will be somewhat ok till the next time. Of course you can only do t his once, then it has to go over the side.
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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11-27-2005, 05:40 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Marshfield
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Originally Posted by Van
after that (or if it fails) ITS COMING OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll go with the new mechanical NFB system...screw this fluid and bleeding and leaking and helms gone bad CRAP !!!!!!!!!!!!
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After today, I'm with you Van. Last spring I had the end seals replaced on my Seastar cylinder. Over this season the helm started leaking, so I was prepared to replace that over the winter. Today I winterized the engine and in the process ended up accidentally breaking a hydraulic line at the cylinder. The mechanical NFB system seems like a good alternative. Even though I'm running a 225 Johnson, I think it will still be pretty manageable. My buddy has regular mechanical Teleflex on his 200 Yammie and it isn't all that much worse than hydraulic. Hydraulic is great, but there's just too much to go wrong. |
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11-28-2005, 08:44 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
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SCott. yup sounds like the right thing to do.
When I got hydraulic, i thought that would be the last time i'd worry about steering .....NOT...
I found NFB teleflex cable steering for around 170. I wish I did that 4 yrs ago.
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11-29-2005, 09:53 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Well like I said I have had GREAT response and service from Teleflex.
A couple of e-mails back and forth and they just told me they will be sending
me a NEW CYLINDER !!!!!!!! No Charge !!!!!!!
Now that makes me a bit happier!!!!!
I still have to figure out how to keep this thing from crapping out again though.
I'm thinking of a couple of rubber boots on each end to keep water away from the seals. I had one of these on my original mechanical steering it worked well to keep the grease in and water out. If I can only find them again and adapt to fit the seastar hydraulic...it might proling the life of the unit.
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