Hey Zeno - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Pete F. · 10-27-2005, 08:30 AM

I liked the Montauk article and since I'm planning a trip there next month it may help a little. But I'm not skishing.

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There were two spots in that issue that they "burnt" although if you hav'nt heard of Montauk and the Salmon River i'm not sure you are a fisherman. At neither of those spots are parking or access a problem. Mugging, I think is how a lot of fishing is in NY/NJ. It usually is cause there are fish there, but that does'nt mean they are all fishermen. I remember on the Salmon River walking up thru a run and one guy telling me there were no fish in the river, 5 feet in front of him there was a 25 pound king, he could'nt see it. Cast in unison now boys.

I kinda thought the editorial did speak to the surfcasters concerns when they said that 83% of there subscribers have a boat or have access to one, in other words this is how much we care about you. I also looked thru the adds to see how many are related to surfcasting, umm...maybe smackit lures.
I often wonder how much of a market there is for a pure shore fishing mag, I do not see much advertising support available for one.

Krispy · 10-27-2005, 09:08 AM

This is one sport that would be better off without the media, the mags or the TV shows.
Let the weekenders enjoy theirs and the diehards keep theirs.
Anyone can invest as much of themselves as they want into surfcasting, and reap the rewards of their work. Part of it is finding the spots, who's getting what where, migration, tackle shops, sharpies, etc...
Or beach chairs, beers, kids, umbrellas, bonfires... whatever you want it to be, you can make of it.

piemma · 10-27-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Krispy

This is one sport that would be better off without the media, the mags or the TV shows.
Let the weekenders enjoy theirs and the diehards keep theirs.
Anyone can invest as much of themselves as they want into surfcasting, and reap the rewards of their work. Part of it is finding the spots, who's getting what where, migration, tackle shops, sharpies, etc...
Or beach chairs, beers, kids, umbrellas, bonfires... whatever you want it to be, you can make of it.

wader-dad · 10-27-2005, 01:01 PM

I consider myself a surfcaster even though I don't get out as much as I would like. I am involved in what I consider a great surfcasting club and spend too much time looking on this site when I am supposed be working. What I am looking for in articles in OTW or other publications is to get the feeling of anticipation that I get when I close my car door and start walking in my waders to the surf. I am looking to get " horsed up " for fishing as Joe Lyons stated above. Flaptail's articles do it. I fish from the surf because I feel a sense of excitement and that I am doing something that makes me feel good inside when I am doing it, not because I have to catch. I like to read something or hear a guy talk that has enthusiasm for the sport- to feel that we share a common bond. I think it is amazing to talk to a guy that has been fishing 100 nights for 30 years and he still has the juice for it. Zeno's article was good for me because I grew up on Long Island and when I was 14, my father booked a charter boat for stripers out of Montauk. It was 1968. A noreaster blew out the trip and my father took me down to the Montauk lighthouse to show me the surf and why the boats could not get out of the inlet. Articles do not have to be literary workd of art or the Old Man and the Sea, but if they give me some sense of the bond we share and the wonder of the caster at the edge of the unknowable sea- then I am into it.

PS: Flaptail please come back.

Zeno · 10-27-2005, 01:39 PM

I appreciate the opinions of all ,thank you.It is refreshing to actually get a spoken feedback instead of finding flat tires on occasion

Just busting.No ,it wont win a Pulitzer prize ,heck ,my elementary teacher would probably flunk it (then again she only speaks Croatian) but that's not the point.
Here is the point of writing ,at least for me :

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Originally Posted by Chris in Mass

Major s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g up about to take place - may not be suitable for all ages: I was wondering if they were talking about the same guy who wrote "A Whitewater Epiphany" in this week's Fisherman. I had to double check. Before seeing this thread, I read that article like 5 times (sorry - only been at this for 4 years). I was in these conditions a few times this season - fins busting certain portions of the foam - plenty of bait. - etc. Couldn't sleep the other night thinking what I would have done differently to get more consistent hookups. Great article, humble style. Somebody was asking in another thread what to do with all your fishing mags when your done with them - this one's a keeper - I'll be looking for the next Zeno article!

Never mind the s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g up part.Something I wrote has actually made someone reconsider their strategy or expand their horizons.Isn't that what writing is all about ,in print and on the net? Helping each other without putting them onto the rock itself ?It is for me.Lord knows I spend more in ink to edit my mistake than they pay me to write

Cause when you think about ,you can use the knowledge and technique you learn by reading at your favorite hole.
No need for you to come over to mine

Zeno · 10-27-2005, 01:55 PM