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11-03-2005, 01:17 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
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I believe the bottom is gonna fall out
Just based on anecdotal evidence... I grew up vacationing in a little community of cottages on the upper Chesapeake. In the ninety's (starting maybe around 1992) a competition started for biggest fish of the year for people in the cottages. Not alot of big fish in that area of the bay in particular, so 33-34 inches usually won. However, there would be tons of fish in the 24-30" range caught from september until late november. I believe the competition has stopped as the last few years there have been so few fish and the ones they have caught are small (18" is a keeper). Add in phisteria, the bunker problem, water quality issues and the fact that mortality is either 0.4 or 0.6  .
Coastwide 1 fish 24-28" or bust (xcept for Chesapeake and Hudson as they are a bit different). |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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11-03-2005, 01:57 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Simple Fix: Stop looking at bass management as an us -v- them mentality and spread the conservation, slash commercial and recreational takes by 33%, ban netting in known bass transit times/areas (ie Greast South Channel NOW!!!), implement a slot limit, establish 10 year moratoriums of any commercial take of herring / menhaden / mackeral within three miles of coastline. Problem will be fixed in no time, well, 10 years anyway...
Not so simple fix: Everything we do these days...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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11-03-2005, 03:00 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Not close enough to the water!
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Well said John! All factors have to be weighed to establish what a sustainable fishery should/will be- not just a simple head count. I also agree with everyone that bases their concern on 'feet in the water' observation- something seems amiss, the gamefish and bait seemed kinda scattered this year (when I could get out).
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11-03-2005, 03:22 PM
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EVERY FISH COUNTS!!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: south plymouth, MA
Posts: 727
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a simple solution MAKE STRIPED BASS A GAMEFISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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todays schoolie is tomorrows keeper,todays keeper is tomorrows cow,practice catch and release!!!.
GOD BLESS THE NRA!!!!
ROCK AND ROLL WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!
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11-03-2005, 03:29 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Originally Posted by CANAL RAT
a simple solution MAKE STRIPED BASS A GAMEFISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And this will do nothing to fix the problem. All it does is reallocate the problem. IF, IF you were to reduce pressure on the fish as a GAMEFISH you might actually have MORE fish to feed without enough forage. Im not trying to yell but to impress the importance of not counting noses of bass. It's not how many bass there are but how many bass in what age classess and how the hell are you gonna feed them as well as every other fish in the food chain - FORAGE FISH is the most important problem AND the most important item that needs to be addressed... As for allocation? I'm for both sectors losing a third... |
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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11-03-2005, 04:09 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Sandy,
All I can say is that the scientist doing the work do not have any agenda. They could care less what the results are, its up to the management board and the entire ASMFC to deal with their findings. Brad Burns OTOH does have an agenda. So i'm much more likely to believe the scientists. which one of us is right will be proved by the findings of the peer review, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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11-03-2005, 04:37 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,036
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wow all this and the striped bass is fine............... More out there than ever
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