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11-07-2005, 02:17 PM
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I don't care what the "scientists say" there may be (according to them) 14X as many SB around now then in 1982 but all I know is that I caught a load of bass back then, it was outragous, both in quanity and quality, nothing has compared to that since then. (I released most back then as well) Until that kind of fishing returns, in my view there has been no recovery. Looking at the results from your BI weekend are so sad. When there were 14X fewer fish around, you could catch several 30s' before dark on a regular basis. Fishing after dark yielded some monsters and just not one or two fish either. And it was not just BI and montauk, it was MV, Nantucket, and the cape had these fish.
IMO the counting method is so stone-age it is not known how many fish are actualy killed. But regardless who is killing what, both comm and bycatch kills should be the first thing to stop. The rec kill can be controlled too thru limits but lets stop all comm and bycatch killing and see where that gets us. These make no contribution to the fishery or economy.
I don't belong to sf but support the gamefish status bigtime. I think that you guys that don't support it are paranoid that it will lead to some Nazi like fishing contols and prevent you from wetting a line. I doubt this as SB is the most economically important fish on the east coast.
I think that you guys that support comm bass fishing then complain that the fall run sucks need to re-think your position a bit more. If I take a million # of fish from your hood in August...will it hurt the Sept/Oct run...ans: YES indeed.
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11-07-2005, 02:44 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Jim;
Regardless, and I do think the stripers, at least large ones aren't around like they used to be. I think the stock may be 'healthy' but the dynamics of the population have changed dramatically (more small fish)
As far as the run goes this year it sucks the big one...
I dont keep detailed logs, but ~25 nights in Oct, had one decent night, and several OK nights with small keeper sized fish... not what it should be...
So far Nov isn't any better....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-07-2005, 02:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
I don't care what the "scientists say" there may be (according to them) 14X as many SB around now then in 1982 but all I know is that I caught a load of bass back then, it was outragous, both in quanity and quality, nothing has compared to that since then. (I released most back then as well) Until that kind of fishing returns, in my view there has been no recovery. Looking at the results from your BI weekend are so sad. When there were 14X fewer fish around, you could catch several 30s' before dark on a regular basis. Fishing after dark yielded some monsters and just not one or two fish either. And it was not just BI and montauk, it was MV, Nantucket, and the cape had these fish.
IMO the counting method is so stone-age it is not known how many fish are actualy killed. But regardless who is killing what, both comm and bycatch kills should be the first thing to stop. The rec kill can be controlled too thru limits but lets stop all comm and bycatch killing and see where that gets us. These make no contribution to the fishery or economy.
I don't belong to sf but support the gamefish status bigtime. I think that you guys that don't support it are paranoid that it will lead to some Nazi like fishing contols and prevent you from wetting a line. I doubt this as SB is the most economically important fish on the east coast.
I think that you guys that support comm bass fishing then complain that the fall run sucks need to re-think your position a bit more. If I take a million # of fish from your hood in August...will it hurt the Sept/Oct run...ans: YES indeed.
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 Fully agree.
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11-07-2005, 07:54 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SOCO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piemma
Worst fall run in 15 years.
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That pretty much sums it up
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11-07-2005, 08:19 PM
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its overrrrrrrrrrrr, I hear from a good source that there is a decent daytime bite in westerly but its all school bass and shuts down at dark. I am finished either way...totally burnt out. Paul is right it is the worst fall run in years. A few people hit some fish in isolated pockets but thats it. I say who cares, overall the season was tremendous, it was the best spring I have ever had.
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11-07-2005, 08:28 PM
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Location: SOCO
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it aint over until I say its over!
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11-07-2005, 09:35 PM
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All up in the Interweb!
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In the dog house.
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
its overrrrrrrrrrrr
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I don't know. I remember what happened a few years back when you made that call and things opened right up in a centrally located SoCo spot... 
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11-07-2005, 09:50 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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I have a hunch #^^^^^^&'s wife is telling him its over.
There will be bass in RI until its too cold to fish, and then they will still be here
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11-07-2005, 09:58 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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With the water temp at 58* it isn't over yet and I will not stop till
at least the weekend after Thanksgiving. I am headed back to Block
Island this weekend John from Twin Maples told me @ the ferry on the
way home, That there were fish around and where to find them.
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11-07-2005, 10:38 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
I have a hunch #^^^^^^&'s wife is telling him its over.
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 I agree.
It's far from over. 
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11-08-2005, 06:08 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2000
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Originally Posted by tlapinski
I don't know. I remember what happened a few years back when you made that call and things opened right up in a centrally located SoCo spot... 
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I always make that call when things are very slow  You have another 2 months easy , migration hasnt even started yet!!!
Its funny, because my wife loves when I am not home!!!!
For me it just gets to be burnout, and when you have a great season there is no need to be desperate and catch the last one that swims!
The season is acually never over, you can catch bass year round now, especially in nebe's favorite spot 
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11-08-2005, 06:23 AM
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Got Necco's?
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Franklin
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From your post Bill, I have some confidence for this weekend. Just have to keep my  open for birds and bait!
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