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11-15-2005, 02:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,595
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First off one word a WADER BELT....
And to answer your question, it's an old wisetail , your fine in waders. Might be a harder swim and cold as hell and getting back up to shore with your waders full but you will be fine.
Frank D did a whole report for an insurance company and proved that you will float and swim with waders on. And I am sure the waders now adays are much lighter then the waders Frank used... Frank is old ...lol
ps. as Frank said they never went to court
VB
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11-15-2005, 02:42 PM
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Count on it, I'm going!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 217
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I got knocked over twice by a dead shark in the surf on a dark night. I had 5 mil neoprenes, a Healy top with dry sleeves and a wader belt plus the bag belt. I went to just my ears backward and thanks to the tight neoprenes and belts I got about two cupfuls of water on my neck and that was it.
Like someone has posted, you won't drown or get pulled down or whatever. But that doesn't mean a thing when you have to drag the extra weight around in the wash while getting the crap beaten out of you by waves, or waves and rocks or waves and rocks and current. That's why you don't want any water on the inside.
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11-15-2005, 03:30 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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how did you get knocked over by a dead shark? 
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11-15-2005, 03:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: marshfield,ma
Posts: 833
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WHen I got a hook through my finger the fish dragged me around a bit and i think i went completely under. Thanks to my aquaskinz I was completely dry. 
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11-15-2005, 03:51 PM
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#5
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 6,267
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riverrat2
WHen I got a hook through my finger the fish dragged me around a bit and i think i went completely under. Thanks to my aquaskinz I was completely dry. 
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I was watching....saying to myself..."what the ^$@# is he doing???" 
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11-15-2005, 04:03 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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I remembered what winch told me about water not being able to hurt me. Soooo I let em fill and I made my way (swam) to the nearest rock pile. Then I took em off flipped them upside down to drain, put them back on and put my dry top on 
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Domination takes full concentration..
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11-15-2005, 04:13 PM
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#7
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 32
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I wasn't wearing waders, but....
I was working as a roofer years ago. Any roofer knows that the only time you fish during the week is on rain days. If it was raining, I was taking casts for trout, largemouth, etc., as this was before I discovered surf fishing. We used to fish this outlet for rainbows. A cast with a spoon w/ a leader and worm retrieved slowly would produce nice rainbows, bass, pickeral and an occasional catfish. Well, this one rain day was a total washout, and several inches of rain had fallen. A buddy and I had decided to try our luck, We got there and noticed the outlet was double in size and roaring, some brush was submerged in water already. We decided to give it a try anyway. Well, the fish were not around and we were soaked and decided to call it. I was fully clothed and had tackle and gear in hand, heavy boots, and a jacket, and the outlet had grown quite a bit since we'd arrived. At this point, small trees were barely visible in some spots, and the outlet had grown from 10 to about 40 feet wide. We were attempting to wade across the inlet to get out of there, and I stepped in a pocket and was up to my neck in water. Shortly after, the current got the best of me, and I was dragged out. My buddy extended his fishing pole, which I grabbed in desparation and managed to pull myself in. I'm not sure that my life was in danger, but was thankful to get out of there without having to shed my clothes and lose my gear. Thanks Matt.
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11-15-2005, 09:33 PM
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Count on it, I'm going!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
how did you get knocked over by a dead shark? 
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It was in Montauk. Here's a post about it on another sites "Montauk thread";
Again, I am remiss in not saying that ALL my fishing is/was at night. That's what I meant by having the 'nerve'. It's one thing to wade or crawl to a rock in the day with some surf. It is much different at night. A true story; One night during a rainy new moon in the fall, I am by myself and, up to my chest when the waves heave, close to North bar. The fishing is OK with a pick of small fish with a nice one every now and then. The wind is out of the NE and the tide is on the way out. The fish are hitting on the swing to my right and the waves are hitting me on my left so my attention is focused to my right with an occasional peak to my left. As usual, every once in a while a larger wave will show up and one did. But I saw it coming and so I stopped my retrieve and jumped up in the air with arms raised. The usual move. At the peak of my jump as the wave is passing, I am struck in the side by something very heavy that knocks me backwards and I go under. No big deal, I touch bottom and start to get up and am knocked down again by this 'thing'. Now I'm like WTF ? And I am looking while turning on my light. It takes me about 2 seconds to see the underwater outline of about a 6-7 foot shark. I FREAK while scrambling/crab walking backward through the surf and rocks dragging my rod and screaming like an 8 year old girl (I am in tears laughing while I type this !). I finally get back to near the waters edge and I am scanning the water while checking myself for some 'horrible' wound. After looking frantically at the water (my horrible wound search turned up nothing) I spy the shark rolling around in the wash. It is a blue shark that has been 'finned' and it's as dead as Terrel Owens is to the Eagles. I damn near died at first with fear and then laughter but I have to say I was PRETTY skittish the rest of the night ! Stuff happens.
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11-15-2005, 11:22 PM
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#9
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 3,650
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Stepped into what I guess was a clam diggers hole at Stinky Beach - it was more like a pit. Went from waist deep to eyeball deep in one step. I jumped out real quick - but it was last time I put all my weight on my lead foot while wading.
Old-timers always adivise to "pick your way out" I found out what they meant that day.
Interesting how most everybody has been lucky in one way or another with their close calls - makes you wonder why more people have not been killed.
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11-16-2005, 07:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: south hadley ma
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There isn't a brook or river in Western Mass that I have n't taken a swim in. the best one was a brook never my house I was about 13 at the time slipped and fell backwards floated down the brook about a 100 feet or so before I could get my feet under me filled up my wader to about mid thigh waddled out to the bank layed down and let the water run out the way it ran in. THomT
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11-15-2005, 03:38 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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not lately....
i try to avoid it at all costs...
Once i got knocked over in a trout stream that was raging....and even though i was in less than 2 feet of water...everytime i tried to do ANYTHING the current just beat the hell out of me....as my waders were full.
a good friend of mine who sadly just died at age 39 of a super rare disease
....gave me a helping hand up and out and if not for him i think i would've drown in just 2 feet of water...he saved my life that day.
but the worst event was when i was duck hunting out on a salt water marsh in December ......to get to my blind you had to cross a river that was frozen over even though it was brackish water (1/2 salt....) i crossed over fine in the morning, but by late afternoon that ice had softened a bit...just not noticable on the surface....and so i went right through carrying two ducks and my shotgun...
all i heard was , Crack! valoooosh and i was looking at ice right up to my nose........
as Luck would have it i just stepped up on a mud bar and broke through the ice almost in hypothermic shock....and tossed my 12 guage up on the snow bank and then crawled out...Since it was several miles to get home frozen and soaken wet....
i quickly retrieved my saftey stick matches covered in wax in a water proof container (Eagle scout trick) and started a fire but i was shivering so bad it wasn't too easy . I had to get completely naked of all wet clothes dump out my waders then i put them back on for warmth...
i stayed there until all my clothes were 3 times rung out and semi dry and hot
before i trudged on home, minus the 2 ducks it took all day to get. 
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11-15-2005, 04:14 PM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vineyardblues
First off one word a WADER BELT....
And to answer your question, it's an old wisetail , your fine in waders. Might be a harder swim and cold as hell and getting back up to shore with your waders full but you will be fine.
Frank D did a whole report for an insurance company and proved that you will float and swim with waders on. And I am sure the waders now adays are much lighter then the waders Frank used... Frank is old ...lol
ps. as Frank said they never went to court
VB
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You don't sink but you're not going to float, and it is what kills you. You get tired and you go under, thanks to your waders. Being burnt out due to your waders, speaking from experience, is what will scare the hell out of you and kill you. Just because water doesn't "weigh" anything underwater doesn't mean it doesn't have "mass".
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11-15-2005, 05:02 PM
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,595
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Pete G.
Not saying your wrong , but head over to Frank D's web page. He just wrote
all kinds of info on waders filling up and I also remember seeing on tv a ad and a guy ran and jump off a dock with waders on.
Trust me I think it's "the mind" telling you your in a bunch of trouble.
I am sure you would get tired as hell of a lot quicker if your way out or stuck in a curent, I would say the cold would get you faster .
VB
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11-15-2005, 05:32 PM
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#14
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 258
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waders
I wear a conversion kayak dry top when I do wear waders, actually wear it with my wetsuit sometimes too. I can swim in it with waders on and stay dry. The 2 things that will kill you when ur in trouble is panic and strugling. If you get in trouble don't panic till ur s#^^^^^&g up water tring to breath, then you have a reason to. Relax its only water work with the waves and current untill you have to put out effort to get where your going. It is amazing how quick you tire when your strugling.
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11-15-2005, 05:50 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,826
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I was out on the end of the reef at Weakapaug last year, incoming tide. Water started to get a little snotty so I decided to get off the rock and head in. My Korkers got all tangled up in the bubble weed and I did a perfect 1 1/2 gainer off the rock into about 5 feet of water. I was luck in that I landed feet first and had on a Grunden top with the neoprene sleeves. I was belted off tight and just got a little wet. Scares the crap out of you at 2 in the morning though.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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11-15-2005, 05:59 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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If I don't fall every time I go out it isn't a good trip
I am very clumsy and go down fast. I have never had a problem yet but keep every thing snug and tight.
just make sure you havve your wader belt and A knife to cut your self out if need be. and by all means don't struggle thing and don't panic
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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11-15-2005, 06:17 PM
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 25
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Its happen to me while trout fishing. The worst time was when I was wading a river during the spring thaw. I was in about waist deep water when I suddenly step in to and deep hole the was over my head the only thingthat saved my but was the current was so strong it drifted my back to the shallow section. and I got my footing back. It all happen in seconds no time to react. Now I allways wear a pfd .
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11-15-2005, 06:34 PM
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Mongerman
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 121
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food for thought
breathable waders, which most of us are wearing these days keep the water out, or in, and due to their breathability will not trap air in for long. no air, no float. probably the best advice aside from wearing a belt is not to panic until you can't breathe....
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11-15-2005, 05:44 PM
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 399
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sadly people drown in undertows & strong currents wearing only bathing suits never mind waders! if your in a strong current and go in wearing anything its not good.
wearing waders wont make you sink like a stone as some suggest [myth]
or float upside down [air in lungs prevents this].
a guy who does this as a party piece in frank d's thread says he just floats like on an air bed in water...due to water pressure trapping air in the waders, why ....A BELT .
I never go out without my wader BELT, when I store my waders I snap the BELT to the suspenders so i dont misplace it.
A good bit of experience is to wear a light jacket [goretex]waterproof etc...
over the waders this acts as a primary water blocker , giving you [and me on a few occasions] time to recover yourself . Usually so little water is taken in due to the jacket, you only get a little soaked....
trying to get out of water soaking wearing jeans is bad enough so waders full of water isnt going to be easy so back to ....BELT. 
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11-16-2005, 12:23 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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Thanks
Very interesting replies to my inquiry. I never went under but I have comeo out of the wash more wet than dry a few times. Sounds like a few of the guys had some hair raising moments while wade fishing.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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