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Old 11-17-2005, 03:37 PM   #1
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I just have two questions for the national organization:

Everyone knows the last Mass. Chapter went broke owing a bundle to the national organization. How much do they owe ?

And, do you expect a new chapter to assume those debts ?
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Old 11-17-2005, 08:17 PM   #2
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Bonefish,

My point is that political action requires consitant work in developing relatioinships and trust. Becoming part of the process and participating. Why would I be interested in something new to do what is already being done for me now???

Also, in the recreational fishing community there are very few willing to get even mildly involved. Adding more organizations just further dilutes the strength of our message. When recreational fishers are split there is just too much redundancy in effort and less actual gain.

Another point is money. Pure and simple money is required to get things done. Whether that be to stipend or reimburse expenses, enable representatives to stay in the hotels where most of the action is done around meetings not in meetings. Funding is also needed for information campaigns, press releases, mailings, conference lines, etc, etc, etc. Once again the more diluted the community the weaker we are.

Another reason I am good with RFA today is that instead of forming a MA chapter asap they took some years to reach out to the established local organizations and work with them, assist them and let them make the call on local issues. This worked because they came to participate and be a part of, sharing expertice but not runing over what has existed for years.

I am far from closed minded, I am just a part of something successful now that has been around and joined the cause, not tried to take over the cause.

"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)

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Old 11-17-2005, 08:34 PM   #3
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Bonefish,

My point is that political action requires consitant work in developing relatioinships and trust. Becoming part of the process and participating. Why would I be interested in something new to do what is already being done for me now???

Also, in the recreational fishing community there are very few willing to get even mildly involved. Adding more organizations just further dilutes the strength of our message. When recreational fishers are split there is just too much redundancy in effort and less actual gain. Another point is money. Pure and simple money is required to get things done. Whether that be to stipend or reimburse expenses, enable representatives to stay in the hotels where most of the action is done around meetings not in meetings. Funding is also needed for information campaigns, press releases, mailings, conference lines, etc, etc, etc. Once again the more diluted the community the weaker we are.

Another reason I am good with RFA today is that instead of forming a MA chapter asap they took some years to reach out to the established local organizations and work with them, assist them and let them make the call on local issues. This worked because they came to participate and be a part of, sharing expertice but not runing over what has existed for years.

I am far from closed minded, I am just a part of something successful now that has been around and joined the cause, not tried to take over the cause.
Bless you and Thank You, and those like you Patrick...I agree with all of your statement, but, I put a couple things in red in your quote that jumped off the page at me... Those of us that do what we can, and would like to participate more, but cannot due to family and work, owe people like yourself a whole pile of gratitude.
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:04 PM   #4
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Karl,

thnk you for the kind words. I do what I do for very deep rooted reasons. It is nice when noticed and ?I just wanted to say thanks.

can yopu feelit coming

send plugs to.......oops, a bit of BM came out in me

thanks buddy

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