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11-22-2005, 07:21 AM
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gotta feeling that lowell will be a new man in fenway and beckett is the new petey.
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11-22-2005, 01:58 PM
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It will stink to see Billy Meuller leave but on the bright side Fenway might be able to bring Lowell back to his old self.
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11-22-2005, 03:13 PM
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I overheard on WEEI that Beckett has averaged 8 wins a year for the last 3 or 4 years. Plus he's had 9 appearences on the IR. Seems like the Sox got screwed. That's alot of talent to give up for a has been and an 8 game winner.
You just have to ask yourself one question. Would Theo make the same deal? First the Bruins blow then the "new" Sox brass blow my offseason. Time for me to find the closest yardarm........
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11-22-2005, 03:44 PM
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Beckett had 15 wins last season. He's young, and his ERA the last 3 years has been around 3.5.
I think ERA is more important than wins....If your club isn't hitting for you it doesn't matter how well you pitch. Just ask Clemens...his team's lack of offense cost him another Cy Young
I think its a good thing getting him...we need some young arms and pitching is at a premium in the major leagues. If he stays healthy he'll make a solid #3 Starter if not #2
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11-22-2005, 03:49 PM
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That's alot of $ and talent to give up for a number 3 starter. He is a big kid and I'm sure his record would be better on a better hitting team. Alot of people alot brighter than me think so anyways........
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"Love is like a snowmobile racing across the tundra then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come."
Matt Groening, Life In Hell
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11-22-2005, 03:54 PM
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Hanley did not do jack in double A.
As you all know we way over rate our players. 
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11-22-2005, 04:16 PM
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I love this trade.
Remember what your eyes tell you. I remember being completely devastated after Boone's Home run in game 7. One of the few things that made me happy after that was watching Josh Becket completely shut down the Yankees. This kid has a big future up here. He's from Texas so perhaps Foulke can treat him to some deer hunting and fishing, and get him happy in the North.
I can handle losing Hanley. I thought he was a little overated and won't play SS anytime soon as long as Renteria's Corpse resides on the left side of the infield. If indeed they lose Sancez instead of Lester I'm even happier.
Lowell's contract is hard to swallow and hopefully we won't have another Mike Lansing for a few more years. Honestly I pay big $ for tix and many $5.50 beers, There cutting payroll with the loss of Wells, Millar and "Damon" this team can afford it.
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11-22-2005, 08:46 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Matt
That's alot of $ and talent to give up for a number 3 starter. He is a big kid and I'm sure his record would be better on a better hitting team. Alot of people alot brighter than me think so anyways........
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How do you figure he's your #3 starter?
Who's your #2? Clement?  Chuck and Duck Wakefield?  (that smiley's Wake's knuckler when it spins like a top and flies like a 747).
Kid's 22, he takes the ball for Game 6 in the Bronx and pitches a complete game shutout. He's been there, done that, and I think this was a great deal for you guys.
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11-23-2005, 05:00 PM
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In no specific order, in 2006 there's Schilling, Clement, Arroyo, Wells(if he's still on the team), Wakefield and Poppelbon. Now you add Beckett and it get kind of crowded. Wells should be moved by then, and there's talk of Arroyo going to the pen.
So it may go, Schilling, Clement, Beckett, Wakefield and Poppelbon. I don't see anything in the numbers that would make me flip flop Clement and Beckett.
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