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Old 11-22-2005, 12:39 PM   #1
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I have considered both before I made my purchase and I chose the simms top, just more comfortable in my opinion and was much easier to put on and take off than the skinz.

Saying the simms has a cuff problem becasue a few in a shop were torn is a leap, Could it have been that they were tried on many, many times by any different number of people? all with different size arms, waist etc?? I know this, simms has an impecable reputation, do an internet search and look at the awards they have won, for best waders, best new product, most durable waders chosen by hundreds of professional guides etc.....I dont think those guys would just say that unless it were true, they fish and hunt some rugged terrain out west and rely on there gear to make a living.

As for customer service, I just sent my waders to them for a cleaning and check up, its free of charge exept for the S&H....They also told me if they find any problems the first repairs are on them. I can live with that. They also will take them back yearly for cleaning at no charge.

I dont have anything against skinz, its just my opinion that simms products are more durable and they have been doing this for a long, long time. I own a skinz surf bag and think its the best made bag out there !

I aggree with dennis as to a hood, both companys should offer a lightweight pullover with a hood, detachible or whatever, I mean what do you do when it rains??

I like the other skinz tops but, they are just to hot for me and dont breath, my simms top is "breathable" and lets sweat evaporate out, just like there waders.

Now, as to the gloves, to be honest I baught a pair last week of the skinz black thunder,, the very first time I put them on, the wrist straps came off??? like they were not even stiched on?? There sitting in my truck and I will try and return them where baught. I was not rough with them either just putting them on? I am back to the glacier gloves.My next pair will be the simms fishing gloves.

I think skinz has some good stuff and these are just my personall observations.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:06 PM   #2
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Now, as to the gloves, to be honest I baught a pair last week of the skinz black thunder,, the very first time I put them on, the wrist straps came off??? like they were not even stiched on?? There sitting in my truck and I will try and return them where baught. I was not rough with them either just putting them on? I am back to the glacier gloves.My next pair will be the simms fishing gloves.

I think skinz has some good stuff and these are just my personall observations.
Bill,
I can say with 100% certainty that you got one of the original pairs of gloves with the stiching problem. On an small amount the stitches are too close together and when tightened the straps tear off as if perforated. A mistake at the factory. It is caused by some glitch in a stitching machine as very very few have come back from a run of hundreds A small number of gloves have come back that way and to avoid this happening again, Kadir changed the strap. Call 1800drytops and Kadir will replace asap. If you look at my earlier post on this thread I mention this issue.

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Old 11-22-2005, 05:54 PM   #3
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I mean what do you do when it rains??
You get a wet and cold head.
Love my Simms so far but a hood would be good.

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Old 11-22-2005, 06:12 PM   #4
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You get a wet and cold head.
Love my Simms so far but a hood would be good.
The simms is nice, good choice

a wet and cold head leads to this

and I dont like that
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Old 11-22-2005, 06:15 PM   #5
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Yup, had wet/cold head today and I don't like...

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Old 11-22-2005, 06:19 PM   #6
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Yup, had wet/cold head today and I don't like...
My simms top is better than yours dave, way better and you know it

Lets not argue this point, lets just leave it at that, Mine is wayyyyyyyyy better

I had mine bfore you had yours , its broken in and has more fish slime on it, its simply better,better, better




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Old 11-22-2005, 06:22 PM   #7
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My simms top is better than yours dave, way better and you know it

Lets not argue this point, lets just leave it at that, Mine is wayyyyyyyyy better
Yeah right..Prove it ya Bum.

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Old 11-22-2005, 06:23 PM   #8
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Like my sig..HUH?

True though..Isn't it?

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Old 11-22-2005, 06:23 PM   #9
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my 0.02; I have the original black Skinz that I got from a friend about midway through the season. I fish pretty hard and had ZERO problem on it, and I'm not all that anal about care of my gear. I use dry suits alot at work, I guess I'm used to putting on the neck seal and crist cuffs etc.., but I have no splitting or damage; granted I dont have ogre wrists like Nebe, but I'm not a small guy either...
just my 0.02; however the simms do come in better colors which is very important to some of you to match your waders

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Old 11-22-2005, 09:57 PM   #10
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my 0.02; I have the original black Skinz that I got from a friend about midway through the season. I fish pretty hard and had ZERO problem on it, and I'm not all that anal about care of my gear. I use dry suits alot at work, I guess I'm used to putting on the neck seal and crist cuffs etc.., but I have no splitting or damage; granted I dont have ogre wrists like Nebe, but I'm not a small guy either...
just my 0.02; however the simms do come in better colors which is very important to some of you to match your waders
Actually Brian I wanted a stealthy black top like the one you have - not the sky blue/turquoise whatever color my Simms Top is - but Simms doesn't make one. I would have it dyed if I was not afraid it would get ruined.
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Old 11-22-2005, 08:24 PM   #11
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I aggree with dennis as to a hood, both companys should offer a lightweight pullover with a hood, detachible or whatever, I mean what do you do when it rains??
How about one of those Grunden Sou'wester rain hats, the ones that look like an old style fireman's helmet?

In warmer weather, I wear an old Surfcaster waterproof ball hat, or the Lamiglas oilskin cap that's getting mildewed in the back of the Jeep
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Old 11-22-2005, 08:47 PM   #12
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How about one of those Grunden Sou'wester rain hats, the ones that look like an old style fireman's helmet?

In warmer weather, I wear an old Surfcaster waterproof ball hat, or the Lamiglas oilskin cap that's getting mildewed in the back of the Jeep
Mike, next you will be telling me to smoke a pipe

I like hoods....

Anyway guys in all fairness, Kadir called me at home tonight and told me there was a bad batch of the gloves and he is trying to make the best of it.He also stated that it was a stiching error not of his fault which I understand.

He is also sending me a new pair no questions asked with the fixed stiching. If the company is that dedicated to its customers then I respect and admire them and wish them the best!!

He did not have to call me at home but did anyway! I appreciate that and the fact that every customer is important weather they buy a pair of gloves or a top of the line surf top!

I wish him continued success !!
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Just to let you know, I went up to my neck today (purposely) with my Simms on, stayed dry and it kept me very bouyant, kinda like a balloon full of air. I was impressed. The pocket stayed dry too, although I wasn't submerged for more than a few seconds.

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Old 11-22-2005, 11:13 PM   #14
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Mike, next you will be telling me to smoke a pipe
Better for you than those cancer sticks

In good weather, you can top off the outfit with a tweed snap brim cap. Goes well with a pipe. Or maybe one of those Sherlock Holmes hats

Of course, once you go that way, can the Land Rover be far behind? :
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:19 PM   #15
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Scotchguard your head - water just beads up and rolls off - no worries.

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Old 11-23-2005, 06:42 AM   #16
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Better for you than those cancer sticks

In good weather, you can top off the outfit with a tweed snap brim cap. Goes well with a pipe. Or maybe one of those Sherlock Holmes hats

Of course, once you go that way, can the Land Rover be far behind? :
well, I cant argue the cancer stick point you have me there !! I really wish I could quit!!

Land Rover??? NEVER.............
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Land Rover??? NEVER.............
That's what you said about a boat

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That's what you said about a boat
nope I am a pick up guy all the way ! Love my GMC And just dont like sport utes. Withy the pickup everything stays out of the cab especially with a cap on it, no smells, no water...etc.............
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