sealing with BIN ?

[thefishingfreak]

any pros or cons?
i found a gallon in the basement and tried it on a few plugs.
seems to work pretty good to me. dries pretty quick too?
any reason NOT to use it as a raw wood sealer

[fishing bum wannabe]

I use it and don't find that there is any penetration. I think it is more a surface primer that should be used after sealing (if you feel sealing is necessary). As a primer it dries quickly, bonds to the wood well, bonds to following layers of airbrushed paint well and there aren't the nasty odors you get with non water based paint. It can be sprayed if thinned but it will clog your airbrush. If you decide to spray it on use some kind of inexpensive external mix brush/gun or you will find yourself spending a lot of time cleaning your airbrush. Remember it dries fast and is tough to get off.

[jnski]

You taklin' about zinser bin shellac(clear), or zinser bin primer(white)?

I used the shellac on some of the first plugs I built. seemed ok, but I decided to strip 'em down, make 'em purty and seal them with the usual linseed/spirits a few months later after the toothy critters got to them, and the epoxy cracked here and there, I would imagine due to the wood swelling, and a poor seal.
they were moldy in places

the primer I have used just as primer, but only after sealing, so no real comment on that.

[Canalman]

Mike,

Don't bother, it's not a sealer and no, it does not penetrate. It's good for sticking to hard, slick surfaces like plastic, linoleum etc and it will seal ANY stain or smell. I have found that the createx paints don't stick well to it at all although your paints might stick.

-Dave

[thefishingfreak]

thanks,
yep i was talking about the white stuff.
my paints work very well with it.
figgured it was worth asking. i been using two part epoxy, but a gallon can is alot more convient to dunk plugs in than mixing up a little at a time and trying to pour it in every hole which wastes alot when your only doing a plug at a time.

anything in gallon form i could use?
i like the idea of just opening the can and dunking.
having the sealer allways at the ready.

[jnski]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

thanks,
yep i was talking about the white stuff.
my paints work very well with it.
figgured it was worth asking. i been using two part epoxy, but a gallon can is alot more convient to dunk plugs in than mixing up a little at a time and trying to pour it in every hole which wastes alot when your only doing a plug at a time.

anything in gallon form i could use?
i like the idea of just opening the can and dunking.
having the sealer allways at the ready.

Some guys use minwax wood hardner, you can buy it pretty much anywhere in gallon size. Maybe someone who has used it can chime in.

I use the standard linseed/mineral spirits. bought an empty paint can from homies, dumped in the proper mix, and my last mix is still in there, three months, and plenty more dipping to be done. Of course it takes forever to dry.
Minwax apparently dries overnight.

[gone fishin]

Mike - i tried that stuff. works well and paint sticks fine. I found that it is not "wata pruf". Water penetrated the plug and the finish cracked. The plug also got heavier the longer I fished it.

I use Zinsser Oil based primer sealer. I also cut it with turps about 1/3 turps to 2/3 cover stain sealer. I get good penetration and it sands smooth leaving a good prime coat.

I made a plug priming rig from 4" PVC. I made it 15" long and it is sealed on one end with a cap - open on the other end with a screw on cover. I usually mix only enough primer to fill the container 1/2 full leaving room to dunk and tip over end to end. I use the mix untill it gets dust and crap in it leaving lumps on the plugs that are tough to get off. It is always at the ready to prime one or a number of plugs at one session. I use a pair of tongs to grab the plug and hang it to drip dry.