sealing with BIN ?

[fishing bum wannabe]

I use it and don't find that there is any penetration. I think it is more a surface primer that should be used after sealing (if you feel sealing is necessary). As a primer it dries quickly, bonds to the wood well, bonds to following layers of airbrushed paint well and there aren't the nasty odors you get with non water based paint. It can be sprayed if thinned but it will clog your airbrush. If you decide to spray it on use some kind of inexpensive external mix brush/gun or you will find yourself spending a lot of time cleaning your airbrush. Remember it dries fast and is tough to get off.

[jnski]

You taklin' about zinser bin shellac(clear), or zinser bin primer(white)?

I used the shellac on some of the first plugs I built. seemed ok, but I decided to strip 'em down, make 'em purty and seal them with the usual linseed/spirits a few months later after the toothy critters got to them, and the epoxy cracked here and there, I would imagine due to the wood swelling, and a poor seal.
they were moldy in places

the primer I have used just as primer, but only after sealing, so no real comment on that.

[Canalman]

Mike,

Don't bother, it's not a sealer and no, it does not penetrate. It's good for sticking to hard, slick surfaces like plastic, linoleum etc and it will seal ANY stain or smell. I have found that the createx paints don't stick well to it at all although your paints might stick.

-Dave

[thefishingfreak]

thanks,
yep i was talking about the white stuff.
my paints work very well with it.
figgured it was worth asking. i been using two part epoxy, but a gallon can is alot more convient to dunk plugs in than mixing up a little at a time and trying to pour it in every hole which wastes alot when your only doing a plug at a time.

anything in gallon form i could use?
i like the idea of just opening the can and dunking.
having the sealer allways at the ready.

[jnski]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

thanks,
yep i was talking about the white stuff.
my paints work very well with it.
figgured it was worth asking. i been using two part epoxy, but a gallon can is alot more convient to dunk plugs in than mixing up a little at a time and trying to pour it in every hole which wastes alot when your only doing a plug at a time.

anything in gallon form i could use?
i like the idea of just opening the can and dunking.
having the sealer allways at the ready.

Some guys use minwax wood hardner, you can buy it pretty much anywhere in gallon size. Maybe someone who has used it can chime in.

I use the standard linseed/mineral spirits. bought an empty paint can from homies, dumped in the proper mix, and my last mix is still in there, three months, and plenty more dipping to be done. Of course it takes forever to dry.
Minwax apparently dries overnight.

[Backbeach Jake]

I was thinking that DuPont 222s or 480s might make a decent wood sealer. The 222s is an automotive midcoat (Real thin clear lacquer) designed to make paint stick. 480s is a jambing clear. again lacquer. If you're painting at the shop should be no problem.

[Christian]

i dont like the minwax stuff. use something else.