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Old 12-03-2005, 06:52 PM   #1
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I think we should all send an e/mail to whoever? to disagree with this..Maybe someone can get an e/mail address for the P-Town selectmans office..Just to express our views....

I'm going where I'm going...
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:05 PM   #2
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Skip---hate to say this, but I think the first 3 words of your thread title are about 40 years too late to be news
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:19 PM   #3
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Red face

This is how the occupy their time in the off season out there. All of a sudden they aren't working 20 of 24 hours a day for 7 days, but thier minds are still full throttle. Add some alcohol, a little dope, and a ton of boredom and things like this happen. Been there done it. No, not THAT...

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Old 12-03-2005, 08:15 PM   #4
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Skip---hate to say this, but I think the first 3 words of your thread title are about 40 years too late to be news
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Old 12-04-2005, 08:04 AM   #5
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Talking so then..........

ummmmm where is P-Town Rock? Since they landed there first...

and since women weren't allowed to be indian chiefs either i think we should change that rule too. Also, since there wasn't any women whailing ships one should be re-commisioned and allowed to go whailing with a full crew of women only.

the declaration of independence and constitution needs to be another pink or purple color as well with a flowery border and be perfume scented with a tear off chocolate cookie coupon on the bottom.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:15 AM   #6
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Oh,I don't know. What would you expect?

Anyway, here's my favorite P'town picture.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:16 AM   #7
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Chocolate Cookie Coupon? Now you're talkin'!!

You truly can't understand bizarre until you've spent a few Winters at the "End of the World". It may be different in the Summer, which is the P-town that we're all familiar with, but in the Winter, you learn that it's no act.

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You'll never get me to that freak show of a town. I dont care how good the fishin is. I remeber going there with the family as a kid back in the 80's and wondering what the F@ck all the guys in pink shirts were doing holding hands. Its the San Fran of the east i guess. Freaks and more freaks. When did this country lose thier minds?
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:11 AM   #9
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Skip, you're ranting like a redneck now.

Please remember that some of us have gay family members that we actually don't view as freaks. They are quite normal to themselves.

And regardless, if the painting was from P-town to begin with...chances are a few of the members in it were women in drag anyway

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Old 12-04-2005, 03:53 PM   #10
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Also, since there wasn't any women whailing ships one should be re-commisioned and allowed to go whailing with a full crew of women only.
I just Googled that and found that there was a whaling ship named the "Queen" so I guess that counts

I think it is a shame that "correctness" goes to this level AND that it seems to be a policy of "convenience"...

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Old 12-04-2005, 09:05 PM   #11
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To me, it's not the fact that a particular person in P-Town might be gay that makes him/her a freak. If a heterosexual person dressed the way some people dress in P-Town, or acted in the same manner as I've seen some of the peope in P-Town act, I'd consifer them freaks as well, sexual orientation not withstanding.

And how come no Japanese soldjers were included in the photos/statues/paitnings of the raising of the flag at Iwo?

How exclusionary.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:28 AM   #12
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Angry They do not have enuf to do.....

But, they are PC!

December 6, 2005

Provincetown will augment crèche with other symbols
By ERIC WILLIAMS
STAFF WRITER
PROVINCETOWN - The crèche at Bas Relief Park will soon be a little more crowded after the Provincetown selectmen voted last night to add a menorah, a holiday tree and a sign saying ''Peace On Earth'' to the seasonal display.

The selectmen had been forced to act on the matter after receiving a complaint letter about the town-owned crèche scene, which has been a fixture for many holiday seasons in the public park.

After consultations with town counsel, it became apparent that to stay within widely accepted legal precedent on such displays, the town would either have to remove the crèche or add other symbols that would allow the display to be categorized as secular.

While there was no sentiment from officials or from the public who attended last night's meeting to keep the crèche in place by itself, the ''remove it or add to it'' discussion was lively, with advocates on both sides.

The selectmen were split on the matter themselves, with the ''add to it'' faction winning the day by a 3-2 margin, with Dr. Cheryl Andrews and Richard Olson in the ''remove it'' minority.

''I think there should be added symbols,'' said Selectman David Nicolau. I think that's what Provincetown is ... it's about being equal.'' ''We obviously can't have just one symbol on town property,'' said Selectman Michele Couture, expressing support for additional symbols. ''I think it's a very fortunate thing that we don't have a state-sponsored religion.''

Selectman Richard Olson argued in favor of removing the crèche to private property, saying that adding symbols ''trivializes the whole thing.''

Before selectmen voted on the issue, members of the public had their say.

''The place for religious symbols is not on town property, the place for religious symbols is on church property,'' said Barbara Rushmore of Provincetown. ''It's hard, people love the warm feeling that they have from symbols that they associate all their life with their beliefs.''

Rushmore said the town would open a Pandora's Box'' by allowing other symbols. ''Do you want a Buddha? Do you want a Muslim symbol at the time when we're in a fight with a Muslim country? I think you best not try and even it up.''

But lifelong Provincetown resident Francis Santos argued for the inclusion of more symbols. ''This town is a mixing bowl,'' he said.




The selectmen indicated that the vote to add the menorah, tree and sign to the display was for this holiday season, and that they may consider other requests for future displays.

In a letter to the selectmen, Provincetown poet Dennis Rhodes, who is in favor of adding additional symbols to the holiday display, wrote that he had begun work on creating an ''Inclusion Fund'' for the 2006 holiday season, to purchase more symbols for the Bas Relief Park display.

Rhodes said the money would be used to obtain a ''beautiful all-weather menorah'' and perhaps an Islamic Crescent and Star.

Eric Williams can be reached at ewilliams@capecodonline.com.

(Published: December 6, 2005)


One guy from P-town wrote a letter to the paper, he worships Zappa, wants the town to buy a 12 foot high chrome guitar to include too... maybe he will get it????
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