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12-18-2005, 09:49 AM
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googan
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Googanville
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Originally Posted by Offshore
...with the majority of the harvest made by anglers in Virginia, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts and North Carolina
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Those RI guys are fudging their numbers...
Or.. maybe all the fish ARE down the Cape.
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12-18-2005, 09:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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Originally Posted by MoroneSaxatilis
Those RI guys are fudging their numbers...
Or.. maybe all the fish ARE down the Cape.
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They're in Idaho, they grow 'em on farms.  |
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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12-18-2005, 10:11 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,316
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Fishing mostly in RI I'd have to say those numbers or at least the interpretation of the numbers is complete BS. But, sometimes I wonder if it's a local problem. Maybe water quality of something. Bluefish never even really raided Narragansett Bay like they normally do. Bunker of any size weren't exactly common either.
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12-18-2005, 12:01 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: not a clue
Posts: 4,860
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the only two thing's I'll agree on is dragger by-catch is way up and the fact is there's no big bait left onshore. what's left is offshore, hense the dragger by-catch of bass...as John is always saying,,stop/cut down on the taking of bait fish and you'll see bass[large] along your shore's in great number's once again.
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BOAT fish do count.
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12-18-2005, 12:15 PM
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Bay & Beach Inspector
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Mid-Cape
Posts: 155
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I'll buy into that argument, anytime.
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12-18-2005, 12:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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They changed the way they compute the threshold this year so comparing it directly to years past is comparing apples and oranges. If they used the same method as in past years, the fishery would be below the threshold and deemed overfished and in danger. They say the way they do it now is better...hmmmm one has to quesiton the timing of implimenting a new approach.
I do not trust them anymore.
Is herring overfished? What about Cod, Bunker, scup, weakfish, tog, fluke, winter flounder and eels? These people can't manage themselves out of a paper bag.
Last edited by Mr. Sandman; 12-18-2005 at 01:05 PM..
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12-18-2005, 05:48 PM
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Bay & Beach Inspector
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Mid-Cape
Posts: 155
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On what do you base your statement that the new method of computing the threshold computation is flawed, Mr. S ? Do I hear an echo from Forever Stripers there? I'm familiar with both and feel the new method is much better.
But more important than my opinion or yours; the uninvolved scientists that peer-reviewd the latest assessment agreed that the new method is much better too.
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