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01-11-2006, 01:59 PM
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Location: Kingston MA
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Yup, proof that it is never really about common sense but only about political clout and stupidity. You watch, next year you and I will not be able to posses a single eel or herring but the commercial industry will barely have their quotas touched!
When the populations don't rebound the DMF will assume that it must be because the fishermen are poaching!!
ps I wonder what 5 thousand lbs of eels looks like 
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01-11-2006, 02:26 PM
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Fish "one of God's gifts to us"
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Woonsocket
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well Elmo it probably looks like the biggest bowl of spagetti you'll find, Now The questions are where will the cuts take place when it come to the eels. I'm assuming the will stop bait use first, then the Food source 2nd. Usually we get it first. by food source, I mean the eels sold and processsed for human consumption.
Mike, Do you know when we'll hear about trapping quota's for personal traps? Or will that only be the 2007 season?
Thanks,
Armand
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"Fish, just one of God's gifts to us."
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01-11-2006, 02:34 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Armand,
At one of their recent meeting the ASMFC's American eel management board passed a resolution that put bait eels and eels for human consumption on a par with each other. So we can be resonable sure that any restrictions will affect both uses equally.
Personal traps will probably also be regulated, but when I can only guess. If the ASMFC adopts an emergency action it will probably be to prohibit all possession of eels, for both personal and commercial use.
Btw- there is a hearing, ostensibly on the proposed reporting requirements for American eels catches to be held:
Rhode Island Division of Fish and Wildlife
January 18, 2006; 6:00 PM
URI Narragansett Bay Campus
Corless Auditorium, South Ferry Road
Narragansett, Rhode Island
Contact: Michelle Burnett at 401/423-1946
I would be willing to wager that, even if I can't make it, the discussion will go a lot further than the proposed reporting requirements.
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01-11-2006, 03:20 PM
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Gone Dark
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Buzzards Bay
Posts: 512
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recent meetings
what about posession of eels rigged on tin squids or rigged eels? after the moratorium is in place. did this come up?
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01-11-2006, 04:07 PM
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Location: Newtown, CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chief10
what about posession of eels rigged on tin squids or rigged eels? after the moratorium is in place. did this come up?
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Hasn't come up yet, that I know of. But if they ban possession of eels, any eel dead or alive will be illegal.
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01-11-2006, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike
Armand,
At one of their recent meeting the ASMFC's American eel management board passed a resolution that put bait eels and eels for human consumption on a par with each other.
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Thats the dumbest thing I ever heard what are these people nuts? On par with each other?? They havent even done any real indepth studies yet?? Mindless idiots passing a resolution like that...God help us..90% of eels used for bait are used right here on the striper coast...Those "other" countries consume gazillions of them..not the same at all. Thats why the ASMFC Is made up of pencil pushers and political puppets.Jerks..........One man screams from the mountain that a certain area has no eels and now its a crisis, when the truth is there habits are shrouded and very hard to study..Study it for 5 years then make a decision.
This has gotton way to dramatic, over the top and out of control..And we have fools running the show.................A three ring circus.there will be eels in 2006 to fish with.I wonder how many lure company execs on the east coast are poking and proding the fire.You know they would love to see eels banned......
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01-11-2006, 04:06 PM
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Location: Newtown, CT
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#^^^^^^&,
Some time ago the eel technical committee sugested a ban on the harvest of the adult, silver eels, but the Management board never acted on it. 99% of the eels caught in the wild and sold for food are silver eels. I think they thought they were doing fishermen a favor by putting bait use and food use on an equal footing. Otherwise it would be easy for some to say, hey they're only using them for bait, so close that fishery down first.
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01-11-2006, 04:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike
#^^^^^^&,
Some time ago the eel technical committee sugested a ban on the harvest of the adult, silver eels, but the Management board never acted on it. 99% of the eels caught in the wild and sold for food are silver eels. I think they thought they were doing fishermen a favor by putting bait use and food use on an equal footing. Otherwise it would be easy for some to say, hey they're only using them for bait, so close that fishery down first.
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Maybe your right. Whatever the case the ASMFC is no different than any other political group, bunch of people who dont have a clue. They just have a way of screwing up everything.
Do people realize the black market that will exist?? It will take an act of congress to hire enough "eel police" !! While admirable if the eel is truly in decline, I see no possible way of keeping track.
what about canada? who is going to stop them from harvesting eels? I know they set a new size limit. I guess I need to learn more but so far its alot of "rush to judgement stuff".....
Well said Chief ! It may look like alot but, really most eels for bait are used in MA.RI,NY CT....Thats about the bulk of it and to narrow that down more its almost exlusive to striped bass fisherman. The real problem is the amount of eels consumed as food. "asking rec fisherman to help shut down the fishery " well thats called "bread and circus" they did that in rome 1000 years ago.
Its a joke, joke, joke with not one shred of hard proof either way! I want to see a ten year study by an independent agency funded by the goverment before any action is hastily made.. I want to see a full and complete study !
JOKE!
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01-11-2006, 05:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
It may look like alot but, really most eels for bait are used in MA.RI,NY CT....Thats about the bulk of it and to narrow that down more its almost exlusive to striped bass fisherman.
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I think it extends a lot further than you think. I know they use eels in ME, NH, DE, MD, VA & NC for stripers. as far as the other Atlantic coast states goes, they may not use them for stripers but they sure as hell use them for cobia fishing. I agree that it's unliekly that the fishery for bait eels is as big as the fishery for food eels, but I think it's a lot bigger than you do.
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01-11-2006, 04:40 PM
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Gone Dark
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Buzzards Bay
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I hear ya. 10 year study. let someone else pay for it. In mass. you can take eels with a fresh water liscense. now there asking for another liscense. its BS. peta like. the state has been charging that for awhile now. where did that money go??? tonight I'm going to buy some eels , rig them this winter and disquise them as tax paying citizens. I'll never get caught. 
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01-11-2006, 04:16 PM
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Gone Dark
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Buzzards Bay
Posts: 512
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all you hear is the "sky is falling". with no proof to back it up. the addendum is a joke. asking rec. fisherman to help them shut down the fishery. do you think they will call to ask for your opinion when the eels come back. I doubt it. I agree with #^^^^^^&. All the atricles I've read on this blames hydro dams or eel eating degenerates so why do rec. guys need to make a concession. tell the foreigners to slaughter some of their cows they've been worshipping for years.
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01-12-2006, 10:23 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
Thats the dumbest thing I ever heard what are these people nuts? On par with each other?? They havent even done any real indepth studies yet?? Mindless idiots passing a resolution like that...God help us..90% of eels used for bait are used right here on the striper coast...Those "other" countries consume gazillions of them..not the same at all. Thats why the ASMFC Is made up of pencil pushers and political puppets.Jerks..........One man screams from the mountain that a certain area has no eels and now its a crisis, when the truth is there habits are shrouded and very hard to study..Study it for 5 years then make a decision.
This has gotton way to dramatic, over the top and out of control..And we have fools running the show.................A three ring circus.there will be eels in 2006 to fish with.I wonder how many lure company execs on the east coast are poking and proding the fire.You know they would love to see eels banned......
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Just for laughs #^^^^^^&,lets pretend that a complete and total ban on eels becomes effective prior to this season's start. Have you yet considered the following:
1. Developing a short list of alternative screen names for use on this site? (plugman,sluggoman,flyman,boatman, #^^^^^^&forever, etc.)
2. What will your first resort be for catching fish?
3. If you end the season with limited sucess, is golf in your future?
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01-13-2006, 07:08 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,036
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
Just for laughs #^^^^^^&,lets pretend that a complete and total ban on eels becomes effective prior to this season's start. Have you yet considered the following:
1. Developing a short list of alternative screen names for use on this site? (plugman,sluggoman,flyman,boatman, #^^^^^^&forever, etc.)
2. What will your first resort be for catching fish?
3. If you end the season with limited sucess, is golf in your future?
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I will still catch fish, I will use sluggos...I wont lose sleep. as for screen names, I will stick with what I have.................Why would I change it? I dont see the humor? Anyway thats it!
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