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01-12-2006, 10:15 PM
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Other dangers to eels
When I lived on the New Jersey coast back in 1994, the newspapers had constant reports of nets being strewn across the rivers when eel elvers would be born in the estuaries, those nets would catch millions of baby eels and all those baits would head over seas for the Asian markets. There was a lot of screaming by the recreational fishing community, but no action. Today, I wonder if those nets still block the estuaries in Southern Jersey, although there probably are not enough eels left for that market to target ...
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01-13-2006, 06:46 AM
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Lets hope it does not get on the endangered list
because if it does it you will not see another eel in your lifetime. Most creatures that get on the list...stay there for a LOOOOOONG time like 20 years +...ala plover, owl etc.
My question is, why are the results not public? Why are they hiding them. Did the public not pay for them? What is the big secret? It appears that this is buisness as usual and they need time to construct a story to explain them. IMO they should be embarressed. Here you have a numbers of fishery management groups that have been managing and watching over the species for decades and under this management, they are becomeing endangered. Does anyone else see something wrong with this? How about a pattern.....TO me, it seems to be going the same way as the Codfish, herring and the striped bass in the 80's.
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01-13-2006, 07:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
My question is, why are the results not public? Why are they hiding them. Did the public not pay for them? What is the big secret? It appears that this is buisness as usual and they need time to construct a story to explain them. IMO they should be embarressed. Here you have a numbers of fishery management groups that have been managing and watching over the species for decades and under this management, they are becomeing endangered. Does anyone else see something wrong with this? How about a pattern.....TO me, it seems to be going the same way as the Codfish, herring and the striped bass in the 80's.
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Results of what? The minutes os the first USF&WS workshop on the eel are available on the USF&WS website. If it's the ASMFC stock assessment that you are talking about, it's simply because it hasn't been presented to the ASMFC's American Eel Management board yet. They ASMFC never releases a stock assessment to the public before it is presented to the appropriate management board. The next board meeting is in Feb. and the stock assessment and the related peer review should become available immediately afterward. With all of the research I have done for the articles I have never had the sense that anyone is trying to hide anything, in fact the staff of the ASMFC and the USF&WS have been very helpful.
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01-13-2006, 01:28 PM
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BTW- If anyone is interested in reading the Nor'east article its on the web at http://www.noreast.com/regionreports...rticle_ID=2933
If you want to read the On The water article, which is a little longer, you'll have to buy the magazine.
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01-13-2006, 07:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finaddict
When I lived on the New Jersey coast back in 1994, the newspapers had constant reports of nets being strewn across the rivers when eel elvers would be born in the estuaries, those nets would catch millions of baby eels and all those baits would head over seas for the Asian markets. There was a lot of screaming by the recreational fishing community, but no action. Today, I wonder if those nets still block the estuaries in Southern Jersey, although there probably are not enough eels left for that market to target ...
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1st, the eels aren't born in the estuaries they are born in the open ocean and then they migrate inshore. 2nd, NJ no longer has an elever fishery, only two or three states do, NH and ME does and there may be one other. I don't have my notes handy.
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01-13-2006, 03:33 PM
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Armand,
If you're speaking this year at the RISAA show, perhaps this would be a good topic for consideration...
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01-13-2006, 04:17 PM
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Fish "one of God's gifts to us"
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Hi Don, Well since you let it out of the bag, Yes I'll be one of the presenters at the Big NESaltater Show at the convention center. I'd be glad to put a mention of the eel situation, MakoMike if you would give me an email armant@verizon.net, I'd love some input from you or maybe even introduce you to give a couple minutes??? get in touch.
Armand
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"Fish, just one of God's gifts to us."
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01-13-2006, 04:32 PM
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01-13-2006, 05:00 PM
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Armand,
Sent you an e-mail but it bounced. I'll be working the show for Nor'east Saltwater Magazine, so it would be easy for me say a few words. Thnigs will probably be clearer by then anyway. When are you speaking? If you prefer you can e-mail me at MakoMike3333@yahoo.com
Last edited by MakoMike; 01-13-2006 at 05:06 PM..
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