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01-19-2006, 09:49 AM
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Yes, eel farms use elvers and raise them
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Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. - Morpheus
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01-19-2006, 10:32 AM
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I agree.
I asked about a timeline and was told that if the petition to place the eel on the endangered species list succeeds: 4-6 months. There will be another US F&W meeting on that petition early this year.
Any new addendum to the Federal Management Plan will take 12-18 months UNLESS there is an Emergency Action to the plan which would have an almost immediate effect.
Also found out that an alternative eel bait market will be available this season: lamprey
Almost forgot:
One good thing for those who showed up at this hearing is that ASMFC keeps a list of who attends – when you sign the attendance sheet you’re eligible for a special permit which will allow you to use eels as bait even if they become endangered. That means that #^^^^^^&, Rockhound, and I along with a few others are safe. I'm glad I attended. You guys should have come to this meeting.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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01-19-2006, 10:48 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Maine is a problem. My neighbor, LT. Bob Chaucey, MA. EPO, has benn arresting Mainers' who come each year to the upper cape and set nets in the runs ( they run the same rivers as herring) and caught many of these guys doing overnight surveilance. He had a couple guys a few years back who were renting a cottage in Falmouth and had the tanks in the cottage so no one could see them. They had a large quantity of elvers.
The sportfishing guys in Maine are so radical about Striper protection and such why is there no one up there concerned about this?
If the American eel goes on the Protected Species list I and you all will probably never be able to use one again in our lifetimes.
No harvesting of herring ( which is way overdue and fine with me and I figure will be more like 6 to 7 years. But the eels will be hard to get back off the list once on, if ever they get off.
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Why even try.........
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01-19-2006, 11:02 AM
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Flap,
One of the two people who petitioned for adding eel to endangered species is from Maine - the other from Mass.
They've done their homework. More info on this website:
http://www.glooskapandthefrog.org/ESA%20petition.htm
Also check out US F&W website about the study.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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01-19-2006, 12:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DZ
Flap,
One of the two people who petitioned for adding eel to endangered species is from Maine - the other from Mass.
They've done their homework. More info on this website:
http://www.glooskapandthefrog.org/ESA%20petition.htm
Also check out US F&W website about the study.
DZ
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Definatly PETA Opratives 
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01-19-2006, 12:19 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,450
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
Definatly PETA Opratives 
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and site members
See this thread http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...highlight=eels
Last edited by Pete F.; 01-19-2006 at 12:41 PM..
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Lets Go Darwin
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01-19-2006, 12:34 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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As I said last night at the meeting, under the WTO rules we cannot stop the export of eels unless they are given either endangered or threatened status. I don't like the glass eel fishery even a little, but, again as I said last night, when it takes 100,000 elvers to produce one spwan ready silver eel, its hard to argue against ltting them take some. I didn't understand the guys comment that eel farmers wouldn't be affected, they are the ones that buy the elvers, if there is no elver fishery there is no eel farming.
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01-19-2006, 12:50 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
Definatly PETA Opratives 
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The Watts brothers are from my town and TimW is a member of this board.Good guys,although eel huggers.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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01-19-2006, 12:55 PM
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#9
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DZ
Flap,
One of the two people who petitioned for adding eel to endangered species is from Maine - the other from Mass.
They've done their homework. More info on this website:
http://www.glooskapandthefrog.org/ESA%20petition.htm
Also check out US F&W website about the study.
DZ
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Thanks for the info Dennis. Turning needles if you want one let me know. Flap 
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Why even try.........
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01-19-2006, 12:58 PM
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#10
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 7,557
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Man there would be awsome #^^^^^^& flames with out eels
kinda like me with outa plug
good reading 
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Pro Tool Club....
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01-19-2006, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,036
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bassmaster
Man there would be awsome #^^^^^^& flames with out eels
kinda like me with outa plug
good reading 
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Nahhh theres more than one way to skin a cat ! Losing eels would be bad but There are many other ways to catch large....
Hey sea dangles, I still say there with PETA......eelhugers? weird..........
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