kayak guidance

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by steelhead

Okay, so who wants to chase small bft with a yak? Some sleigh ride that would be!!!!

Ohhhh, that sounds so much like a thread from our old friend, I believe his name was Patrick????? GBFT from shore, remember that one! Who can find that thread so others can share in that fun. (Not busting on ya Steelhead, but you'll understand when you read it)

Here it is;http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...hp/t-1148.html

Yeah Eben, that was a good video. (Making note to self, no inflatable SOTs)

[steelhead]

Nightfighter, I loved reading that thread! What a hoot! There was a certain element of tongue in cheek to my post. But in the other hand.... At times, aren't we all just a little bit crazy?

[SAXATILUS]

Originally Posted by steelhead

Okay, so who wants to chase small bft with a yak? Some sleigh ride that would be!!!!

I do. Not really that crazy John. They were close enough in RI this year. I went out in hopes of getting into them a few times last year, but without success. Without the ability to zip quickly from one place to the next you just have to be in the right place at the right time. It is definatley do-able. People catch alot bigger than sbft out of yaks. If they come in as close this year as last, you will have to come down and give it a try.

[FishHawk]

http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee/forums...4/m/1461091551 Check out this link shows you how to get back in a
SOT . FishHawk

[steelhead]

Just like a canoe! Nice!
That's the other reason I'll be getting a SOT.
If I do roll "out there", you don't end up with a tub full of water.

FishHawk. Any links to proper landing techniques in the surf?
I remember one showing a backpaddle technique as the waves broke by you as opposed to surfing in.

[Raven]

the smaller blue fin tuna are caught while out trolling.... is my understanding.... so to catch one in a "kayak" wouldn't you need either a self propelled (via foot power) or a battery/ trolling motor setup
to cover enough water to accomplish this? or are you simply chasing around schools that are blitzing and then casting into them?

[zacs]

Originally Posted by Raven

or are you simply chasing around schools that are blitzing and then casting into them?

And if you were not that into chasing them around. If you stayed in the same place long enough with your motor off, they would pop up within casting distance....

[Mr. Sandman]

What are considered the top 5 fishing kayaks? (excluding cost)

[Raven]

i have been researching this long before i shell out cash looking for new features and stability in kayaks specifically designed for saltwater fishing... and the hobie cats have my attention because of the mirage system( foot pedaling) but i also want a trolling motor battery set up too and of course a paddle. Malibu kayaks have some great features too. I also look at the total weight capacity and want it up to 450 pounds minimum as a battery trolling motor setup is good for
what 100 pounds maybe alone. you start filling coolers with beverages ....frozen bait...plugs - water ,survival gear.... and whamo
your over the limit in capacity real quick.

[hooked]

Originally Posted by steelhead

Any links to proper landing techniques in the surf?
I remember one showing a backpaddle technique as the waves broke by you as opposed to surfing in.

Here's one or two links with good info on technique for getting back on a SOT and launching/landing.

http://kayak4fish.com/press/SurfSkills.shtml
http://www.paddling.net/guidelines/showArticle.html?108
http://www.paddling.net/guidelines/showArticle.html?98
http://www.paddling.net/guidelines/showArticle.html?146

My technique is - plan on dumping but try not to

- make sure your gear is stowed and rods are leashed.
- time the sets for a lull
- follow a wave and paddle like hell
- if a wave catches you, try not to bury the bow and try to remain at a 45 degree angle by using your paddle on the beach side of the boat
- if you get tossed, keep the kayak between you and the shore and not the waves.

Raven, most kayaks that can support a motor are going to paddle like a bathtub. The Cobra Fish'n Dive is the one I've seen rigged up that way on the West Coast sites. It's got a 600# capacity.

[Raven]

the fish and dive thus far gets my vote....

i sweetwater fish in a johnboat but i wouldnt take that into the surf for any reason.... one good wave or power boat passing by leaving a wake...and your (swamped) flipped....so i'm looking for the saltwater alternative....

and that one gets my VOTE> worth the money !!!

it's either that or a tin boat...but the "IDEA" is to get out on the water effeciently without any hassels so the yak seems to be the answer.

[hooked]

http://www.martialartsacademy.org/qu...ctrickayak.htm

The link at the bottom doesn't work. His main homepage is...

http://www.martialartsacademy.org/quietmanfish.htm

[The Dad Fisherman]

That was awesome how he set that up....Got me thinking

[hooked]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

What are considered the top 5 fishing kayaks? (excluding cost)

Tough question to answer since alot depends on the conditions you prefer, your body type, your desire for stability vs. performance and whether you are conservative or n#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g futs.

I'd say these manufacturers seem to be the most popular and each seem to have a couple models worth looking at.

Cobra - http://www.cobrakayaks.com/kayaks.html
Ocean Kayaks - http://www.oceankayak.com/kayakinfo.html
Malibu - http://www.malibukayaks.com/kayaks.asp
Wilderness Systems - http://www.wildernesssystems.com/kayaks/sot.php
Heritage - http://www.heritagekayaks.com/sitontop.html
Hobie - http://www.hobiecat.com/fishing/index.html

These are primarily sit on top models, so I'm sure that there are others to consider.

[Raven]

THANKYOU !! your chasing my winter blues away BIGTIME....

i was reading on his first site where he said: he was blowing by his paddling buddies... who couldnt make headway in the wind....
that happened to me one day.... and i had plenty of juice and power (it seemed) but the winds were just to strong....i eventually
had to put on my waders which i always have aboard...and i had to tow my boat all the way around the shore line to get back to my vehicle. people on the shore were giving me a bunch of stupid looks too...and i know how to SAIL real well and wished i had one... Wow ! he carries allot of gear !! which is why i said 450lbs and up capacity. I bought a gas motor now for the sweet water boat.

back to yaks: and tm's (trolling motors) i had once bought a riptide saltwater version but it didnt last long enough and cost $600.oo bucks Yikes
so i liked his method of buying hundred dollar motors and rinsing well. I still would want more thrust than 34lbs though and the riptide
was 55 pounds of thrust. the setup with the crate is sweet

[FishHawk]

Steelhead , Hooked took care of the surf landings. That's the board is was going to go to for the surf landings. FishHawk

[steelhead]

Hooked, That was the site and Link that I was trying to remember on landings. I think I'm going to spend some time at Wingarsheek Beach up here practicing that technique this spring.... Truth be known, if I can find a small shallow cove out of the wind close to where I plan to fish, I don't mind waking a bit... :-)

[MrHunters]

i had no idea kayak ideas would get so much attention..



i can't wait to try it out this spring!

[Jungledog]

I would recommend a SOT, probably easier to deal with in the overall experience.
When I am looking to buy something, I always check e-bay first. I just did a search for fishing kayak and turned up several below your price range and located within driving distance to pick-up. It is now the offseason for small boat sales and is a good time to buy.
Buy a good paddle and a good pfd. You will be wearing the pfd everytime you go out so buy one that you find comfortable.

[steelhead]

MrHunters, There's a great launch spot down the street from your place in Kettle Cove. Be happy to take you out this spring/summer :-)

Also, maybe a s-b kayak event would be fun this summer....

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by SAXATILUS

I do. Not really that crazy John. They were close enough in RI this year. I went out in hopes of getting into them a few times last year, but without success. Without the ability to zip quickly from one place to the next you just have to be in the right place at the right time. It is definatley do-able. People catch alot bigger than sbft out of yaks. If they come in as close this year as last, you will have to come down and give it a try.

i think idealy you would need to have someone in a CC with a radio or cellphone. OR be able to keep 2 yaks in the CC and launch them near the school.
I'm game to chase them though.. the last one i caught last fall was easily within reach of a shore launched yak.

[steelhead]

Nebe, You got yak?

[Nebe]

yes. 18 foot chesapeake 18.

[MrHunters]

Originally Posted by steelhead

MrHunters, There's a great launch spot down the street from your place in Kettle Cove. Be happy to take you out this spring/summer :-)

Also, maybe a s-b kayak event would be fun this summer....

sounds good to me... I have parking for two cars... and you can always take your chances at the beach...oOoooorr i could drive to the beach since i have a residence sticker and there is parking for three

BUT... Im gonna go out a few times to get my bearings and a little practice so i dont look like SUCH a n00b

[MrHunters]

whats a CC?

[nightfighter]

center console, acting as the mother ship!

[MrHunters]

oh...

[Nebe]

The motehrship connection. can you dig it???

[steelhead]

I can dig it.... Lets go paddling sometime!

[hooked]

When I looked into this last year, it didn't seem worth the hassle (to be legal). For BFT, you need a recreational HMS Angling permit. Sounds cheap ($22) and easy but to get the permit, the MNFS requires either a state registration or coast guard documentation on the vessel. This generally requires red tape, such as a hull ID, and other BS which I've heard takes months.

I hope I'm wrong or the regs loosen up. Last years info is at http://www.nmfspermits.com/other/05ComplianceGuide.pdf

Rec info on Tuna is on page 26 & 27


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