Hamas

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by spence

Mike, I think you're forgetting the small part about the UN partition in 1947 done against the wishes of every Arab nation!

While I agree the surrounding Arab states could and should have done much more to help Palestinian suffering over the years, the fact is the UN displaced three quarters of a million people...promised to help them and did little to nothing.

-spence

I'm not forgetting about the partition. The partition itself did not displace anyone, everyone that was there was allowed to stay there. It was the looming threat that as soon as the UN got out of the way the Arab countries were going to destroy the fledgling state, that forced palistinians to move, the Jews had no where to go, so they stayed and fought, and won. If the palistinians that elected to move out of the way, had instead stayed, they would still be there.

[TSPS]

The old saying that "there is nothing new under the sun " is true .

1) Back in the late 30's early 40's it was the Dems that where crying out to get involved in what was becomeing WW2 , and the Republicans saying " stay out of it its their problem we need to be diplomatic "
Now in todays age the the rolls have reversed .

2) Hammas may do some good things , but thats just to cover up their real/true agenda . Hammas has finally got what it wanted , political power . I'm sorry ,open minded or not , this is a big , big problem. They go out recrute , brain wash , and send kids in with bombs tied around them .

just my 2cents

[spence]

I don't think anyone is arguing that Hamas doing humanitarian work in any way compensates for acts of terror. Rather it's to try to put things in an alternate and disturbing perspective.

Mike, I don't think the refugees had much choice...they could have stayed and probably not lived. The important point is that they were denied the right to return and the UN failed to provide promised assistance.

It is really f'd up and it only going to get worse before it gets better.

HANG ON.

-spence

[TSPS]

Spence , when has the UN acompulished anything ? The UN is a compleat wast of time and money.

[Sea Dangles]

What in the name of Allah is going on here?A bunch of pseudo poli-sci fishermen giving an Americanized Zionist opinion on age old Middle Eastern politics.
Eben, go make a plug.
Spence, go make some coffee.
Skip N,go make some leaders.

[basswipe]

KILL'EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LET THE MISSLES FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DAMN COMMIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wait...wrong era.Carry on.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Ok buddy....Just keep thinking that all persons who support Bush are Nazis...Your are very classy you know that. You have sympathy for Hamas, Now thats extreme my friend. Your so outta wack in your thinking its scary and rather sad. The pics are meant to be funny....chill out with the Nazi talk. When liberals have no argument you go to the Nazi card. Your so predictable.

no, i only compare that hateful site of yours to neo-nazis, not hitler era nazi's.. You know, the group of guys who go around beating up gays, blacks, and jews.. There are not many hateful websites out there, so that was the best comparison i could find. I guess i could have compared it to the KKK, but they are so passe'

bottom line is your pet website is agianst free speach and chockablock full of ignorant mindless propaganda geared at colege aged sheeple.

hey, if you like it then by all means enjoy yourself.

and like i stated before i do not think Hamas is the best for palestine. I am simply saying that the pallestinian cause is not understood by most americans. I dont unserstand it all and i read about this stuff almost nightly.

[basswipe]

Ya know what we need?

Another one of those 2mile wide dinosaur ending asteroids!!!

CLEAN SLATE BABY!!!

And the only person left alive'll be me.And the stripers will be ALL MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nebe]

A link from protest warrior
http://www.communistsforkerry.com/

[Raven]

lol....thats freakin RICH Nebe.... i love it.

[chris L]

its good to see opinions . but lets face it opinons are like butt holes everyone has one but they all stink .

until you have walked a mile in another mans shoes shut up already

in reallity our opinions dont matter . they voted they have what may or may not be better than what they had . but its what they wanted . ya think they wanted bush in office . I dont think so . maybe the internet guy ? what was his name ? .................................. oh yeah

but you guys enjoy this chatter have at it
im getting another pale 33

[basswipe]

Originally Posted by chris L

but you guys enjoy this chatter have at it
im getting another pale 33

Holy Shiite Muslim!Could not've said it better myself!

[chris L]

Originally Posted by Nebe

bottom line is your pet website is agianst free speach

is that possible in this country ? I know I use it freely !

Originally Posted by Nebe

and chockablock full of ignorant mindless propaganda geared at colege aged sheeple.

I dont know cause I wouldnt visit a site that has political info . but college students are a good audience

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Nebe

no, i only compare that hateful site of yours to neo-nazis, not hitler era nazi's.. You know, the group of guys who go around beating up gays, blacks, and jews.. There are not many hateful websites out there, so that was the best comparison i could find. I guess i could have compared it to the KKK, but they are so passe'

bottom line is your pet website is agianst free speach and chockablock full of ignorant mindless propaganda geared at colege aged sheeple.

hey, if you like it then by all means enjoy yourself.

and like i stated before i do not think Hamas is the best for palestine. I am simply saying that the pallestinian cause is not understood by most americans. I dont unserstand it all and i read about this stuff almost nightly.

Lets see...So i hate Jews, Blacks, Gays and i belong to the KKK. Damn, this is news to me. I didnt know i was like that. Well if Nebe says so i must be like that. After all his opinions are the only ones that matter. I hate Jews huh? You might want to rethink that...Who his the one here who has sympathy for Hamas and "the Cause"? "The cause" involves blowing up innocent kids and teaching children to be suicide bombers. Not to mention those people you support voted in Hamas!! Just who is the Jew hater my friend? If you want to suppurt a cause that invloves the destruction of an entire race go right ahead...but you are one misguided fellow.

[Squid kids Dad]

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Squid kids Dad

you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink

[Sea Dangles]

Dumb people argue politics.Vicarious entertainment for a few of us but nothing gets resolved.Showing poor judgement and a lack of common decency at this point.People are entitled to their opinions.If everyone thought alike;the world would stop spinning.It's one thing to recognize a cause and another to die for it.PASSION

[NIB]

What the Dangler said.
Nebe u said Sheeple.
Thats A NIBism

[Nebe]

dump people argue politics, smart people debate politics.

hey NIB

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Nebe

dump people argue politics, smart people debate politics.

hey NIB

Trust me Nebe,your unworthy diatribe has placed you in the former category.
If I may quote Shakespeare"A rose by any other name is still a rose"
Just trying to give both participants a chance to bow out with what little dignity they have left.

[Nebe]

dude, you have made quite a fool of your self on these boards, so i would say you are calling the kettle black.

besides i am simply stating my opinion. if you dont like it, add me to your ignore list.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Nebe

dude, you have made quite a fool of your self on these boards, so i would say you are calling the kettle black.

besides i am simply stating my opinion. if you dont like it, add me to your ignore list.

More drivel
And you wonder why you are ostracized from the ledge.

[Nebe]

[ThrowingTimber]

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber

Im laughing too. Is it spring yet???

[Swimmer]

Sharon is getting what he wanted with the Palastinians. He took his troops out of the way and they started killing themselves immediately. To Israel it may be a problem that is going to take care of itself. But if it doesn't consider this, Hamas on one side of Israel and Iran a short distance away. How long does anyone think that Israel is going to allow that kind of threat to fester and grow before they step on the threat? Boom!

[Swimmer]

NIB is smarter than he looks!

[Nebe]

The interesting thing is that now that the people of palestine have voted in the party that they want, the onus is totally on Hamas to step up to the plate. If Hamas does not show to the world that they want peace, the US and its allies will place sanctions up the yazoo which could put palestine in a worse place than the days of arafat.
This year will be very intersting to say the least.

[spence]

Sanctions???

Hell, we're talking about cutting off aid!

-spence

[Swimmer]

Its sad looking at this from both sides. Isreal and the palastinians are fighting to keep land they have lived on and lost, lived on and lost, lived on and lost over several milleniums. God, no matter which one you ascribe to isn't making any more of it and maybe on that basis everybody ought to learn to live with what they have.