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01-29-2006, 12:09 PM
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Yah, sounds good. Certainly more pliable and easier to make a point.
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01-29-2006, 12:21 PM
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Kippy, I use the larger of the two sizes. Most of mine I rig with 3 weights like Steve showed me. I did a couple with 5 weights, but the 3 weight ones wiggled a little better.
I was never able to rig slug-go's correctly with the classic worm-style hooks. I always found that no matter how perfectly straight they were before the cast, the force of casting the lure would slide the body down the hook and cause the rig to spin. Until I started double-hook rigging, I would simply use an 8/0 mustad straight hook in the nose with thread wrapped around the shank. It wiggles just as good as the double hook rig. I'm not really sure why I have switched to double hooking them to be honest...
Here is a write up on the style I was using:
http://www.connecticutsurfcasters.co...sluggoart.html
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01-29-2006, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tlapinski
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Good article.Certainly easier and a little cheaper to rig them according to the article.
I did notice no mention of adding weight(other than the hook).How well does this cast compared to the double hook weighted sluggo?
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01-29-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by basswipe
Good article.Certainly easier and a little cheaper to rig them according to the article.
I did notice no mention of adding weight(other than the hook).How well does this cast compared to the double hook weighted sluggo?
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They don't have quite as much weight rigged that way, but you can add weight if you want. The single hook on its own is heavier than the two hook combined. You really only need to add tail weight. When I rigged them this way, I seldom used weights. When I did, I would use nails. As #^^^^^^& said, they are not as dense as the lead so you need to use larger or more of them to get the same effect. It is, however, a viable option. I seriously doubt a bass will care if you use a nail or lead or if your rig weigh .02 ounces less than the guy standing next to you.
By the way, Tim Coleman uses the single hook method and he has taken some impressive fish over the years on slug-gos rigged this way.
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Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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01-29-2006, 07:41 PM
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[QUOTE=tlapinski]They don't have quite as much weight rigged that way, but you can add weight if you want. The single hook on its own is heavier than the two hook combined. You really only need to add tail weight. When I rigged them this way, I seldom used weights. When I did, I would use nails.
Access to nails is not a problem for me.They are in abundance all over the place on our sites!
I'm gonna rig up a few this week in weighted and unweighted.When we get a decent enough day I'll do a little experimenting.
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01-29-2006, 07:52 PM
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just for the record, the lunker city nails are not lead. there might be a little bit of lead in them, but they are made out of a crappy alloy like a tire weight.
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01-29-2006, 11:20 PM
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viva the plug-o-lution
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ive used regular wood nails, they work. its nice having the sluggo ones though so you can break them if you think you need lees weight.
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01-30-2006, 06:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlapinski
They don't have quite as much weight rigged that way, but you can add weight if you want. The single hook on its own is heavier than the two hook combined. You really only need to add tail weight. When I rigged them this way, I seldom used weights. When I did, I would use nails. As #^^^^^^& said, they are not as dense as the lead so you need to use larger or more of them to get the same effect. It is, however, a viable option. I seriously doubt a bass will care if you use a nail or lead or if your rig weigh .02 ounces less than the guy standing next to you.
By the way, Tim Coleman uses the single hook method and he has taken some impressive fish over the years on slug-gos rigged this way.
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Toby, I agree the bass could care less but, I feel from seeing his results night after night, That the total package of the way Steve rigs them and fishes them works awesome. Could very well be that a minor change would take away from the action that he gets. So its the whole thing and not one thing that makes a difference. Tim has told me more than once that the only reason he does not rig them like steve is simply being lazy, while he has caught some impressive fish, the action is not the same . Steve has hit the perfect combination and total paclage that works perfect. As far as rigging them goes, once you get the hang of it its really easy and fast. Eben, you are right however there is something to it. Steve uses 3 of the large size could be the exact perfect weight..I dont know I just see the results..........Very Impressive.
So while a nail may seem like a minor difference, I think it could make all the difference in the overall action etc... But hey inovation and imagination are good and tinkering with the bait is half the fun, I have fished them with single and double, I prefer the double hook rig.
Still wont come close to a live eel  But then again...Nothing does................... You know Steve makes the comment at his shows, "No other artificial even comes close, the only thing better is the live eel" Thats a statement I agree with.
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01-30-2006, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
So while a nail may seem like a minor difference, I think it could make all the difference in the overall action etc...
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Why would a nail not work if it is the same mass as the slug-go weight?
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Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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01-30-2006, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlapinski
Why would a nail not work if it is the same mass as the slug-go weight?
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same mass different weight.
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01-29-2006, 01:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlapinski
I was never able to rig slug-go's correctly with the classic worm-style hooks. I always found that no matter how perfectly straight they were before the cast, the force of casting the lure would slide the body down the hook and cause the rig to spin. Until I started double-hook rigging, I would simply use an 8/0 mustad straight hook in the nose with thread wrapped around the shank. It wiggles just as good as the double hook rig. I'm not really sure why I have switched to double hooking them to be honest... 
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Toby, I just peg them into the hook eye with toothpicks - they stay put that way.
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