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01-30-2006, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tlapinski
Why would a nail not work if it is the same mass as the slug-go weight?
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same mass different weight.
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01-30-2006, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
same mass different weight.
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But if it was same mass/size, it would be the same. No?
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01-30-2006, 08:06 PM
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sure.. dont see why not
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01-30-2006, 08:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlapinski
But if it was same mass/size, it would be the same. No?
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The weight of an object is defined as the force of gravity on the object and may be calculated as the mass times the acceleration of gravity, w = mg.
Weight of nail= (mass of nail) x (acceleration of gravity)
Like nebe said, in otther words the weight is different and so is the mass between the nail a lunker city nail since the acceleration of gravity (9.8 m/s sq.) is constant.
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01-30-2006, 08:42 PM
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WTF
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01-30-2006, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Goose
WTF
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you got that right goose!!!
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01-30-2006, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Goose
WTF
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The nails and lunker nails appear the same but different densities.
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01-30-2006, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
The weight of an object is defined as the force of gravity on the object and may be calculated as the mass times the acceleration of gravity, w = mg.
Weight of nail= (mass of nail) x (acceleration of gravity)
Like nebe said, in otther words the weight is different and so is the mass between the nail a lunker city nail since the acceleration of gravity (9.8 m/s sq.) is constant.
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HUH?!?!?!?!?!?
Acceleration and Gravity are not mutually inclusive.Remember the 'ol bowling ball and a feather in a vacuum?Everything being equal the rate at which an object will fall(accelate) is 9.8ft per second/per second. So..................
........which weighs more:a pound of lead or a pound of feathers?A pound is a pound no matter how you look at it.The only differance is size.So.........
.........a 1/32 nail weighs the same as a 1/32 slug-go weight.And trust me nails come in oh so many more varieties than a slug-go weight. Depending on size# a stainless brad is about as small or smaller as a slug-go weight.
Last edited by basswipe; 01-30-2006 at 09:56 PM..
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01-30-2006, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
same mass different weight.
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If the mass is the same, shouldn't the weight be the same, assuming both are on this planet? 
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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01-30-2006, 09:36 PM
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mass is the physical volume or bulk of a solid body. A nail made out of steel will never weigh as much as a nail made out of a heavier metal such as lead that is the same mass as the steel nail.
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01-30-2006, 09:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
mass is the physical volume or bulk of a solid body. A nail made out of steel will never weigh as much as a nail made out of a heavier metal such as lead that is the same mass as the steel nail.
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The derivative of Newton's second law is
Weight = Mass x Gravity
If the nails are the exact length and diameter but different weights the mass is different per the law. Therefore the mass is different and not the same.
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01-30-2006, 09:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
The derivative of Newton's second law is
Weight = Mass x Gravity
If the nails are the exact length and diameter but different weights the mass is different per the law. Therefore the mass is different and not the same.
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You guys are unbelieveible.......There is no way I am reading this
Use the sluggo weights, there made for it and there cheap and they work.
Unless of course you want to get a galvanized ringshank nail and clip the head off then weight it on a jewlers scale.....Have the weight cross calibrated against the sluggo weight and fine tune until you have the correct mass+weight+density divided by the conifulus pin calculation and then overlayed against the snafnine theary which =the greater of the two index figure of mass confusion vs the home depot bargain nail bin in aisle two near the flooring just left of the hardware isle..............
Evere hear the term " Acoms razor" "The simpliest answer tends to be the correct one"......................
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01-30-2006, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
You guys are unbelieveible.......There is no way I am reading this  .
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Believe it.And you ARE reading it.
It'll ALL make sense after another beer and a another puff!!!
AHH-HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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01-30-2006, 10:12 PM
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I've been using the sluggo weights all along there are other things to worry about then saving a few pennies but creative design is sometimes achieved by thinking outside the box. I would use plummers solder (sp) if I did not have sluggo weights.
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01-30-2006, 10:31 PM
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Easy fellas.
Did it not occur to anyone in this thread that I absolutely made up everything I just said?It all sounded plausible and y'all DID believe it! Deny it all you want,y'all believed me!Didn't we learn anything from that stupid humus thread I started?
All I can say is "speak and the masses will listen".
I'm gonna be freakin' dictator someday. 
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01-30-2006, 10:00 PM
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true. I confused mass for volume.
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01-30-2006, 10:02 PM
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Gravity is always the same.When people can start manipulating gravity
that's when people will start travelling between the stars.
But I digress...the size difference between same weight nails of different densities is negligable at best.
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01-30-2006, 10:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by basswipe
Gravity is always the same.When people can start manipulating gravity
that's when people will start travelling between the stars.
But I digress...the size difference between same weight nails of different densities is negligable at best.
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But by how much? what about the nails at Grossmans bargain outlet -vs-Quality stuff from home depot or the local hardware store? And sometimes I wear two differet socks and forget that one is hanes and the other wal-mart brand, in that case one sock may weigh more than the other, causing me to list to one side ever so slightly and increasing the risk of lower back pain which will be worsened by picking up a pound of nails which may acually be two pounds which I have no way of knowing because the scale at damons hardware in wakefield was not calibrated by the state in over three years.............
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