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Old 01-31-2006, 01:45 PM   #1
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Good reading today Thanks

Bill quick question on your Cutty eel rigs .
How the LL do you get that hook down the eels mouth so far?

Thanks in advance
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Old 01-31-2006, 01:51 PM   #2
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VB Hey man...we await the master`s answer

Long shank Gamakatsu live bait Octopus straight 4X ?
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Old 01-31-2006, 05:54 PM   #3
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Another option is the eel bob.With this you use the back 8 inches of a dead eel and have a 1 oz. lead head on the front.You get the smell and feel of a real eel and can put it where you want in the water ,even on rough nights it will get down where you want it to be. http://tattoostackle.com/eelbob_dz.php
This is a good bit of literature on the eel bob on Tattoo's site , by DZ. These are pics of the eel bob and the Wobble Head swim plates or "tin squids" as they were called in the old days. You rig the second hook in the eel from the loop in the middle of the lure. This hook ,by the way, can point down.
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Old 02-02-2006, 06:54 AM   #4
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Thumbs up E#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I use heavy leaders and my leaders are 12 feet long, I use fluro but not becasue the fsih cant see it, they could care less at night what leader material you are using, I use flouro simply for the abrasion resistance and the overall strength, For years I used ande 60lb mono and still do sometimes... makes no difference in how many fish I hook.


Mono to mono on the leader? Or are you braid to mono/flouro? And you fish conventional so do you advise same leader length for spin fishing ? Probably not with the large barrel to large snap.

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Old 01-31-2006, 02:09 PM   #5
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Good reading today Thanks

Bill quick question on your Cutty eel rigs .
How the LL do you get that hook down the eels mouth so far?

Thanks in advance
VB
It goes in pretty easy acually, I pinch the eel near his head and the mouth opens nice and wide, Thats acually a short shank hook so it gets good and covered.

I dont like the octopus hooks because they are to thin and tear thru the eel to easily and have a longet shank than I like, to me, the Mustad 94150 6/0 is the best eel hook on the market. I sharpen my hooks to a needle point and they are just as sharp as gamis.....

They used to call that hook a "live bait" hook now they call it an "all around" still the same hook.
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Old 01-31-2006, 02:15 PM   #6
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Thanks Bill, "pinch the eel between his ears!" and he opens his mouth!
Just like @^%$&$&^*

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Old 02-02-2006, 07:16 AM   #7
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Also

on the hooks somewhere you said you used big siwash then another the Mustad 94150 which is a O`Shaughnessy ringed bronzed extra short shank hook

Just trying to get stuff together for the new season and appreciate your info.

I think Steve M said he liked Gami all around and Octopus but you say no?

~~~~~~~ Honey I need about $200.00 for Slug-Gos, a variety of hooks, dacron,super glue, and yes those are eels in the freezer......



You two you should do a book together
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on the hooks somewhere you said you used big siwash then another the Mustad 94150 which is a O`Shaughnessy ringed bronzed extra short shank hook

Just trying to get stuff together for the new season and appreciate your info.

I think Steve M said he liked Gami all around and Octopus but you say no?

~~~~~~~ Honey I need about $200.00 for Slug-Gos, a variety of hooks, dacron,super glue, and yes those are eels in the freezer......



You two you should do a book together
I use mono to mono via the albright knot, this knot is fantastic and I have never had one fail.

The siwash hooks are for rigged eels and the 94150 is what I use for live eels.

I dont like the gamis for two reasons: 1st for me they are to thin and tear though an eel easier. The other is that they dont rust out.If I cut the leader to release a fish the mustad rusts out fast........
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:56 AM   #9
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I owe you Bill

Thank you very much Bill


When should I expect the book coauthored by you and Steve?

You could do a simple construction booklet and I bet it would sell.

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Old 02-02-2006, 12:15 PM   #10
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Really good info. Thanks for sharing .
If you even want to try some Block Tin eel squids to experiment with, just drop me an email with your addr.

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Old 02-02-2006, 12:41 PM   #11
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FYI;
If your not crazy about the long point on the Siwash, the 8/0 or 9/0 tinned version of the Bronze 94150 that Bill uses for eels can be used for Rigged eels too... picked up that tip from a long Island transplant that DZ often refers to as 'Darter Al' although Dr. "Darter Al" might be more appropriate....

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Old 02-02-2006, 12:51 PM   #12
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Thank you very much Bill


When should I expect the book coauthored by you and Steve?

You could do a simple construction booklet and I bet it would sell.

Mike
Nah.I dont mind sharing what has worked for me and I am sure there are hundreds of other ways to do things that come to the same result, this stuff is just was has produced for me over the years....different strokes for different folks..........
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What surf and bottom structure conditions do you use for the eels with two 1/2 sinkers in the eel's mouth ?

Also, do you use the same technigue as the rigged eel when you retrieve ?
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