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02-02-2006, 04:43 PM
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Why are the gami octopus hooks crap? Here is a pic of one of McKenna's slug-gos from last fall when we were out on Cutty. These were 7/0 or 8/0 hooks and he was using mono...
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02-02-2006, 04:48 PM
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damn pictures.
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Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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02-02-2006, 05:12 PM
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Tlap: It's not that Gamis are "crap" in general-- they're not! But a different hook for every different purpose/ application!
When I used Gami Octopus' w/ Live Eels, way too many flew off the hook. As #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& says they're thin- wire hooks-- not good for live Eel hook retention. Barb is quite small too. And... my PB 41 lber., partially opened my 5/0 Octopus, although I still managed to land (& release) the fish. Finally, yes, rust- out is very important for live Eeling, but less so for riggies or lures like Sluggos that don't often get swallowed like the live do. Been using Owners in recent years... but will give #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s' Mustad pattern a try! I will crush down by 50%that huge barb though, as I'm strictly a C & R guy!  |
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02-02-2006, 06:14 PM
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I use Gami octo in 5 or 6 for eeling but I'm no expert.I hookem different than E.M. but I don't cast off eels.I have caught some decent fish and have never bent a hook,but I use a drag.Most hooks are bent because you hook into the jaw and get seperation pressure.Like Bill said a slow action rod is essential.My mentor,the Iron Man uses Gami live bait,these are $$$ but he prefers the strength and short shank.Some sharpies feed nails to their snakes to weigh them down,those slimies are hard to kill.Some times a trolling sinker can be used in line, above your leader.This is especially helpful on the backside of the cape when the water is moving sideways.
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02-02-2006, 07:03 PM
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McKenna
Yes ......... in his OTW article about Slug-Gos Steve uses Gamakatsu
either Octopus 7/5 or live bait 7/5 (front to rear).
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02-02-2006, 07:10 PM
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Ok its #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, I just happen to be at clammers house.........Having said that..Tlap, I never said anywhere that gamis are crap, there awesome hooks, just not for me when it comes to tosing live eels...........Like I said a million times, to each his own.....Steve uses those hooks because they do not rust...which is exacly what he wants for the sluggo after rigging it, he does not want the hooks rusting, for me, the mustad rusts fast and if I have to clip the leader to let the fish go I have peace of mind that the hook will rust out! One is a lure................the other an eel, it would be like having any plug with hooks that rust in a day, you would not want that, same for the sluggo, When steve fishes live eels he uses the same hook I do..ask him !
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
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02-02-2006, 07:23 PM
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ewww .. that was kinda creepy...like watching Edgar Cayce in a trance and having someone from the other side's voice come out..  |
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02-02-2006, 07:26 PM
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Hmm...
I'm gonna offer some other hook choice with the sluggo kits I sell. I had not heard about them opening like that.
Any consensous on alternatives that are about the same price? I'm open to suggestions. The rust factor is important - the hook needs to be resistant.
Good discussion here - lots of positive info - s-b.com at its best.
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02-02-2006, 09:54 PM
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Where is the X?
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Originally Posted by tlapinski
damn pictures.
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02-02-2006, 10:03 PM
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Gami Octo straight shank 4X
And the heavier Live Bait
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02-03-2006, 02:42 PM
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the gami live bait hooks are sick.
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02-03-2006, 03:09 PM
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Those live bait gamis are awesome for rigging slugs...I had to re-read Tlaps post looks like I took it the wrong way.......  |
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02-03-2006, 04:27 PM
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Excited
about trying a bunch of new things! My first 40# this year and maybe more than one ~~~~~~~~~ 
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02-02-2006, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tlapinski
Why are the gami octopus hooks crap? Here is a pic of one of McKenna's slug-gos from last fall when we were out on Cutty. These were 7/0 or 8/0 hooks and he was using mono...
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your asking why they are crap?? look at your picture, the front hook is straightened!!! |
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02-02-2006, 09:17 PM
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oh, disreguard taht last post. i thik toby was trying to explain why they are crappy.
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02-03-2006, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
oh, disreguard taht last post. i thik toby was trying to explain why they are crappy.
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Yeah, I was only saying the octopus are in rigging slug-gos. I love the HD LB hooks! After that night from the picture, Steve swore he was switching to the LB's. I had been running LB's on the front and back of mine without any trouble. |
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"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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02-04-2006, 08:48 PM
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I prefer to use a single hook for the sluggo. I have ordered some Owner oversize worm hooks (5110) that are available in 7/0 and 11/0. They should work nice in rocky or weedy conditions. Black chrome finish.
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