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02-03-2006, 12:30 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Where the bait is....
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The SS ones are great. They work real well if you bring up tension on the plug and kinda let it get tossed around in the wash...always under tension. Theyll hit the thing when u least expect it.
They are actually one of my confidence plugs whens the surfs up, and they do catch just gotta have the right technique.
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02-03-2006, 07:12 PM
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#2
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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whatever you do, do not put a swivil&flaptail on a bottle plug.
nope
never.
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02-03-2006, 07:42 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA/RI
Posts: 2,411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
whatever you do, do not put a swivil&flaptail on a bottle plug.
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Do you tie direct, which knot, if so would you also tie direct on a darter since their similiar ?
Why direct tie ?
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02-03-2006, 07:53 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,990
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you dont need to tie direct. Your better off using a snap to allow more movement. Its the vibrations eminating from the bottle that are its biggest attraction. Use the visual extras on plugs like needles or swimmers
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Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. - Morpheus
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02-03-2006, 08:09 PM
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Official S-B Sponsor
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Stonington CT
Posts: 236
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I have found using a loop knot on darters, lead heads, needlefish, storms or bottle plugs give them better action and less hardware to shy fish away!
However, just remember to re-tie after 10 or so fish as the loop wears.
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02-03-2006, 08:19 PM
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Who says there's no fish in CT
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Milford, CT
Posts: 333
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Krispy hit it right on with the ss bottles; they have a tight wiggle like a plastic swimmer but much more defined. I like to let them sit without reeling or retrieve very slow as the water pulls on it as the waves retreat back into the ocean. I've also done well in the same situations where you would use a darter like a rip; dead stick it tight to the lure and let the rip do the work. Never done much at all with the Gibbs though
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02-03-2006, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,316
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I finally developed some confidence in bottle plugs this year. Even now I still typically only send them into battle when everything else can't handle the conditions, outside of a heavy bucktail. I've always had one in my surf bag and I bump it up to 2 or more when conditons demand. I should probably use them in more normal conditions from time to time, but I love my Dannys.
The SS bottle (and others) thrives in extreme current, strong headwinds, and even water with debris in it; all things that a lot of offerings have trouble in. That powerful wobble keeps going even with a bit of mung on board. I think fish can sense that heavy thump the body puts off even in loud, turbulent, conditions and that's mostly why I feel confident using them when it's nasty out.
I've only ever fished them with my usual Rosco Coastlock snap. If I was to tie direct I would tie a No Slip Mono Loop, but since I usually only use them in nasty conditions I've never really worrried about the visibility of my terminal tackle.
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02-03-2006, 08:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
Do you tie direct, which knot, if so would you also tie direct on a darter since their similiar ?
Why direct tie ?
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I am a big fan of the small breakaway clip. the big ones are a bit cumbersome, but the small ones are perfect for plugs. IF i had to tie direct, i would put a 4 H splitring on the loop of the plug and tie an improved clinch.
i love to let a bottle just sit in a rip with that flaptail humming.. the plug is thumping, the tail is humming...you can feel all of it if your using braid.
One night last fall at an undisclosed outflow i had a fish on every single drift before i stoped freespooling....... sick 
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02-03-2006, 09:48 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
Posts: 4,547
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bottle darter
Last edited by MAC; 09-24-2006 at 12:04 PM..
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02-04-2006, 04:41 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
i love to let a bottle just sit in a rip with that flaptail humming.. the plug is thumping, the tail is humming...you can feel all of it if your using braid.
One night last fall at an undisclosed outflow i had a fish on every single drift before i stoped freespooling....... sick 
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You're disclosing more than you think 
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02-04-2006, 05:54 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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i know. 
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02-05-2006, 05:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
Posts: 4,949
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He must be heavily into another type o bottle.
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02-03-2006, 10:11 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
whatever you do, do not put a swivil&flaptail on a bottle plug.
nope
never.
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Grasshopper; come hither. When you hear this man speak in such terms, you do the exact opposite!
(Especially when he's on the political kick!  )
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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02-04-2006, 12:36 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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Redsocticket,
If you're going to tie direct at all, on a bottle or a darter try out a perfection loop. It will allow for better freedom of movement. Check it out and tell me what you think.
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